Roosh V’s Weak Ego — A Case Study

Roosh V certainly likes to lash out. He denounces American women in general, thinks little of the many countries and cities where he didn’t really get anywhere, and is always quick to find an excuse for his lack of success. It seems whenever he doesn’t get laid yet again, it’s apparently because feminism and US-style materialism have finally taken over the entire country on the very day he arrived. This then makes Roosh construct an alternative reality in which Swedish girls are fat, Danes look like dogs, and where London sucks. Apparently he lives on a different planet than I do.

I do think there are just two reactions Roosh evokes in his readers, which also explains why he doesn’t get bashed so much online. Anybody who’s travelled a bit just immediately realizes that Roosh is full of shit and bitter because he doesn’t get laid. Those people then just move on. However, there is also the crowd of men who got burnt by the seduction community and proponents of game. Having learnt that the “cube” doesn’t magically make women spread their legs, and that Ross Jeffries-style hypnosis is a complete fabrication, they eventually realize that they have little to offer in terms of looks, status and money, basically all the things that according to “game” don’t matter. Instead of working hard to improve their position in life, those men then fantasize that there must be some pussy paradise somewhere on earth where Joe Below Average counts for something. Roosh V looks like the savior to them. He, too, didn’t get anywhere with women in the US, so in their mind he must be right! (Again, the problem is always the others, never they themselves.) I’m just sketching the problem in broad strokes, but I may expand on it in more detail in future posts. Yet, when I see Roosh writing that American men "chose homsexuality" so that they don't have to put up with the women, I can only shake my head:

A fellow American I met in my Belo Horizonte had an odd complaint about me: he said I talked “too much” about girls. I scratched my head because the only two safe topics that you can talk about with just about any guy in the world are sports and pussy. What else am I going to talk about? Art? Style? I wondered if he was homo.

You see, Roosh V isn't a particularly sophisticated fellow.

It’s not surprising that there are many sycophants around Roosh, like “G Manifesto”, the “pimp” who claims to wear Paul Smith suits, yet flies RyanAir and throws a childish tantrum when people point out the discrepancy between his persona and reality. I spent a couple of hours some weeks ago reading a couple of that dudes posts and was laughing so loudly that my Argentine Mastiff got scared, which doesn’t happen all that often. Anyway, some people challenged Roosh V on his own turf. One such guy is “IRT”, as Roosh and his followers call him, which is an acronym for “Indian Race Troll.” Roosh and his forum members seems to have quite a hard-on for him, and extensively crawled the Internet to dig up some information on him. Of course it was only natural that there are some inaccuracies. I followed some traces, and found it more than amusing that said guy seems to be living in three US states at the same time, and writes in vastly different styles. Then again, maybe the Roosh V forum meme took on a life on its own. While “IRT” used to refer to one particular person, these days any guy who might be Indian and dares to bring up issues of interracial dating in discussion gets linked to that persona.

The real “IRT”, though, kept marching on. In a trilogy of articles, “IRT” first attacked Roosh, calling him the biggest fraud in the dating/PUA business:

Nothing is ever truly his fault. In fact, according to him, most American women are mentally ill and unsuitable for dating. Simply because he cannot score any dates with them and has to go abroad and resort to sleeping with hookers, Roosh believes that American women are all undesirable, ugly, and unworthy of his attention (god be with whoever is worth it). Rather than embracing the fun in dating, getting with girls, and all that, he encourages all men to cheat on their wives and girlfriends and of course find excuses. You can’t get laid? It isn’t because you lack the skills, it is because all American women are just mean.

What “IRT” does is merely pointing out the obvious. I do think that his language is rather harsh, but so is Roosh’s when he is talking about, well, pretty much anything. In fact, these days Roosh seems to go straight for the lowest common denominator of the lowest of the Internet. Just think of his "race totem pole of attractiveness", or his piece on the "ugliest feminists of America". Sadly, Roosh isn’t just some dude sitting in his basement and dreaming up bullshit, like Roissy/Heartiste. Instead, he actively promotes a certain kind of lifestyle. At its core is one of the most absurd tenet of game, namely that you shouldn’t “put women on a pedestal”, yet everything Roosh and his followers seem to care about is how to get pussy, and be it just one meager “flag” in weeks of trying hard. The cognitive dissonance is beyond belief. 

I do think that the “lifestyle angle” is worse. Let’s hear “IRT” on the issue:

A lot of the information on the travel forum goes unchecked and majority of the time the forum members spend on bashing races, nationalities, bitching about the system, and spreading lies. Now to a lot of the informed, we can pick up on this but men who are just getting into game are often discouraged and misled. You are basically reading advice from men who had to resort to escorts and prostitutes their whole life. Majority of the advice is written without any credibility or validity. Another thing I have noticed is that the forum pushes limiting beliefs such as if you are a certain race you just cannot get laid at all which goes against the traditional values of game which my caveman lookalike topic of discussion pushes. Basically, Roosh and his forum buddies are pretty much walking contradictions.

Indeed, just as game gurus of yore preyed on the inexperienced, so does Roosh target people who have no reference experiences about seemingly anything. This also explains why a nutjob like “G Manifesto” doesn’t get laughed of Roosh V’s forum but instead enjoys great popularity. Just like “G Manifesto” is rolling in dough in his fantasy and flying Ryan Air in real life, so does Roosh V fuck hundreds of women in his mind, and in reality goes home empty-handed pretty much all the time. But what happens if you live in a fantasy world and someone like "IRT" points out the obvious?

I ended up reaching a conclusion in which I asked myself how can a man who talks about being an international player fail to get laid in Toronto? The answer to the question led to my conclusion. Roosh has hyped up his life online to be some sort of success story in which a man can blame his surroundings, ethnic appearance, and other things on the area alone, move to a new area and become a well respected playboy. The sad part of Roosh and his psychotic condition is the infection aspect. Roosh has become an infection to young men down on their luck that feel like their environment is the major issue. Such men will passionately defend Roosh without seeing the truth in front of them, there are men in their area having lots of success with women. These young men will become bitter, racist, bigoted, misogynist and blindly defend Roosh because he serves as their excuse and blinds them to the truth that there are many men in America experiencing success. If there are millions of men in America still having success, then the problem isn’t America, the problem is them.

I could have bolded the entire paragraph. Well, what happens when some blogger who is referred to as "IRT" pisses off Roosh is that Roosh then tries to stir up a mob that would harass this poor guy in real life. Roosh seems quite insecure, actually. It’s all just a facade, though. It won’t happen that some Internet jockeys roam suburbs and shopping malls to figure out who “IRT” really is, and it’s further quite unlikely that Roosh has any information beyond that guys IP address, which can of course be linked to his geographic region. Yet, Roosh is into fear-mongering and ominously tells people that if they want help identifying “IRT”, they should message him as he claims that he can give more information. That’s just a page out of the “fear, uncertainty, doubt” playbook. “IRT” is safe. Yet, Roosh is scared. He’s scared by some random blogger on the Internet who would get only a fraction of the attention he’s getting if Roosh wouldn’t obsess about him. So, what’s the problem, dude?

I do find it pathetic that Roosh V attempts to put pressure on one of his critics by inciting his forum members to harass him in real life. I think there is a good parallel to the “seduction community” in its heydays. People started to become very critical once “field reports” emerged in which PUAs were thrown out of clubs or beaten up by guys who didn’t quite like that some clown with a furry hat was pestering their girlfriend, even after she politely told them to get away. Those were prime examples that undermined the validity of “game” and its more prominent teachers. Such incidents just made it too obvious that there was something fundamentally wrong with "game", and I do think that such experiences led to an implosion of the scene. Just look around the Internet. The "game" fad has now pretty much died. You still have a couple of weirdos who want to sell boot camps, but plenty of those scammers moved into the self-help niche, or got back to their day job or whatever they were doing before. I wonder what would happen if one of Roosh’s goons got into trouble with the police for stalking “IRT” in real life. Surely some would realize that their fantasies and reality are quite incompatible, and if that happened, then Roosh's goons would face a rude awakening yet again.