tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post2636054470313765375..comments2023-05-17T08:14:10.789-07:00Comments on Men, Women, and Society: The Open Thread: September 2016Aaron Sleazyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-28246238835063785212016-10-01T02:01:19.355-07:002016-10-01T02:01:19.355-07:00Nice visualisation of the gender imbalance in metr...Nice visualisation of the gender imbalance in metropolitan areas: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1bo2kw/regional_ratio_of_young_women_to_men_in_europe/<br /><br />"It's the rich areas with the highest women to men ratio."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-56736158344500401642016-09-27T08:36:56.136-07:002016-09-27T08:36:56.136-07:00It's just:
-> ONS: Looks more important to ...It's just:<br />-> ONS: Looks more important to women<br />-> Relationsship/Dating: Women care more about personality/status <br />If you deal with hot women on daily bases, it will be just a matter of time/ mathematics(numbers game) to get a hot girlfriend. You can be an average guy and get a hot girlfriend, but you'll need to meet 100s to 1000s of hot women to find somebody who is interested. This whole blog is about rising the probability of meeting a girl that likes you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368904021102225008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-31129273171278544512016-09-25T21:03:31.291-07:002016-09-25T21:03:31.291-07:00So Alek
In your experience, do fashion photograph...So Alek<br /><br />In your experience, do fashion photographers who are in close proximity to beautiful women usually and handle their photographs and take their pictures, end up getting them due to the value of the niche they are; from the perspective of the women? Because I came across another quora post of another photographer, having a model girlfriend because he did photos it seems.....<br /><br />https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-have-a-beautiful-wife-partner/answer/Tom-Barrett-2DanNeutronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14645303886079656399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-14013725042528273092016-09-25T02:55:16.909-07:002016-09-25T02:55:16.909-07:00Alek could you tell more about the way you used yo...Alek could you tell more about the way you used your money for signaling status?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368904021102225008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-54601774543052028272016-09-24T09:51:08.584-07:002016-09-24T09:51:08.584-07:00Go look up recent studies done even by Ivy league ...Go look up recent studies done even by Ivy league schools and google search up studies done on this. Asian males are at the bottom of the male attractiveness hierarchy. Hot girls of other races do not out with Asian/Mongoloid males because of their appearance and because the current social reality facing them. There are no top caliber hot girls in places like Europe or USA etc that go out with Asians or give them a chance, or even consider them as partners.....Xaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870653219375132364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-12156622684347862212016-09-24T09:48:44.814-07:002016-09-24T09:48:44.814-07:00I also found this interesting reply, on a post abo...I also found this interesting reply, on a post about women whom are supposedly intelligent and attractive at the same time. <br /><br />https://www.quora.com/How-does-it-feel-to-be-both-highly-attractive-and-highly-intelligent/answer/Katerina-Simms<br /><br />It's funny but it seems that women, and attractive women are all the same; despite this women being born ugly and being made fun of, she turned out to just as shallow and superficial as any attractive women of her age group in her early twenties; which she hints at that by stating that alot of her boyfriends were the jock/douche types and she never really went out with the introverted nerd types and that she had men paying 1000$ for her at dates. How does this social dynamic really work?<br /><br />So attractive & intelligent women are just as shallow and superficial, and go after the same type of guys as attractive non-intelligent women for the same reasons and social mechanisms? So all women are really attracted to the same thing and all spew bullshit and lies about what they think and are attracted to, even if as in the case of this women, she grew up thinking she was ugly? <br /><br />So really all attractive women are all shallow, status and attention whoring, and vain narcissistic creatures that exhibit and act in similar to same ways regardless of intelligence level?Xaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870653219375132364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-59979378720016804772016-09-24T02:16:45.950-07:002016-09-24T02:16:45.950-07:00It looks like (very good) troll account to me. Quo...It looks like (very good) troll account to me. Quora is a shit hole, filled to the brim with conformity and stupidity. That user mocks fun at that, and in a smart way because if you are the average semi-intelligent Quora reader who skims stuff looking for affirmations of your own beliefs, you won't even notice that he is making fun of them.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-16096670443703460802016-09-23T23:52:19.137-07:002016-09-23T23:52:19.137-07:00Hey Aaron and Alek and everyone else....
I also c...Hey Aaron and Alek and everyone else....<br /><br />I also came upon an interesting user on the quora website; is this guy trolling or not? Is this guy for real? I can't make myself believe some of the hilarious stuff on this guy's account, and he has disabled all responses to his messages....<br /><br />https://www.quora.com/profile/Vinny-DeVito-2Xaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870653219375132364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-44000808597996051272016-09-23T17:56:27.232-07:002016-09-23T17:56:27.232-07:00Sparrow,
Where are you getting these 'facts &...Sparrow,<br /><br />Where are you getting these 'facts & statistics' from? Not all Asian men are short stereotypical math gamer geeks. For the ones that are, being Asian is not very relevant. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15312806239429500436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-18365386871192775802016-09-23T17:45:26.401-07:002016-09-23T17:45:26.401-07:00And Obama and Hillary want the same thing in Ameri...And Obama and Hillary want the same thing in America.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15312806239429500436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-28721925174915739242016-09-23T16:04:30.359-07:002016-09-23T16:04:30.359-07:00Yes, this is true. There is even a "dating co...Yes, this is true. There is even a "dating coach" who is specializing on teaching those illegal immigrants how to get chicks, and he's being paid for by the government. You can't make that up.<br /><br />(I'll write more about politics and a number of more serious topics on a new blog. Details to follow soon.)Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-29123464699470868232016-09-23T11:47:02.424-07:002016-09-23T11:47:02.424-07:00Aaron, is it really true that the Germans are teac...Aaron, is it really true that the Germans are teaching migrants how to rape (sorry, "how to make love with") white women, as shown in this video:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ildtq20FK7I<br /><br />At minute 5:00 they show a "flirt workshop" for migrants which was given in a German youth center by a sex therapist. That's pretty disturbing from my point of view...Ernestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-7157357953592084672016-09-23T06:22:48.492-07:002016-09-23T06:22:48.492-07:00Well, the female clients I had all urged me to rel...Well, the female clients I had all urged me to release a book with advice for women because apparently the existing material is even worse than the stuff our there targeting men.<br /><br />The four points you mention would work for some women. The question with looks is more about the kind of guy she wants to attract. If a woman maximizes her looks but also dresses very provocatively, she may have a hard time being taken seriously as a long-term prospect.<br /><br />When women contact me, it's often about the issue how they can make their guy commit, as there is the problem that some just live in a fantasy world where her status is at best akin to a mistress, albeit she holds out for a relationship that is very likely to never materialize. It's not overly surprising if you're dealing with a high-status man. More dramatic examples are when the only guys they are able to get are those who pump and dump them (well, then don't use sex as a means to trick guys into a relationship; this only really works on Bluepill Bob).<br /><br />The other big issue are unreasonably high standards or an inflated view of themselves thinking that they will be able to "trade up" to get a better guy ad infinitum. I wish some of those girls would have strong father figures in their life who make it clear to them that they should scrap their game playing and not waste their youth offering their pussy to every Matt, Brad and Chad that comes along. If you now want to argue with "biology" and "female hormones", then I'd have to point out that quite a few women manage to restrain their sexual urges. Likewise, any guy who gets tons of ass probably regularly refrains from fucking shady women, too, because they know they mean trouble.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-53489458877999098152016-09-23T06:00:00.961-07:002016-09-23T06:00:00.961-07:00Hello Aaron
Is there any good book you would reco...Hello Aaron<br /><br />Is there any good book you would recommend that is about dating advice for women? (assuming her goal is to find "true love",or at least as close to it as possible.)<br /><br />I assume that most popular dating advice given to women(i.e Playing unreasonably hard to get)is just like how mainstream PUA is to men. An unnecessary placebo at best,a deal-breaker at worst (i.e a girl playing excessive mind games makes herself look like a cocktease/attention whore,not LTR material)<br /><br />I've always thought that women's dating advice is summarized this way:<br />1.Maximize her looks <br />2.Expose herself to social situations via getting social hobbies <br />3.Resist the urge to chase players and bad boys (who will obviously never commit to her. she's free to sleep with him if she wants to though)<br />4.Be coy and don't sleep with him too early,but don't play excessive mind games either (most importantly however,know WHEN its time to stop the games and open up.)<br /><br />Or at least that's what I thought up. I assume however that there is a lot more to this than my hypothesis states.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-9649062867778061512016-09-21T21:55:27.835-07:002016-09-21T21:55:27.835-07:00MacDragard
Do you really think the chances of an ...MacDragard<br /><br />Do you really think the chances of an ASIAN guy in the West losing his virginity at 5 and fucking his sister's friends is really high, given that Asian males going with attractive other race females are extremely rare, and Asians are at the bottom of the attractiveness scale for males due to the statistics? <br /><br />This guy in question subscribed to PUA's like squattingcasanova and DJ Fuji; so given all these factors and characteristics, the chances of this guy pulling 8's and 9's in a place like LA is really incredibly low; and this guy's claims are really unbelievable. If he needed to go into this PUA bullshit, then I don't think that he would have fell under the category of guy type personality that you described. <br /><br /> I mean have you ever seen a really hot other race girl with an Asian guy in countries like America? Its incredibly rare for an Asian guy to get with a girl of another race, let alone a hot one based from my experience. I mean interracial relationships are pretty much the exception and not the norm right? Especially given that Asian males are the biggest disadvantage compared to other race males in terms dating attractive females of other races......Xaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870653219375132364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-91502057969247251922016-09-21T05:52:43.610-07:002016-09-21T05:52:43.610-07:00Wait, but Alek, you're admitting game exists!?...Wait, but Alek, you're admitting game exists!?!?<br /><br /><i>With experience you get "subconcious recognition" of girls you have a higher chance with. That's one explanation why PUAs (and experienced guys) do over-time get better girls (or better ratios). They attribute all of it to "improved game", but ignore how much of it is just "better target selection".<br /><br />If you forced them to try and lay the first 100 girls they cross paths with, it wouldn't be THAT much higher than when they started. Such a test would prove how much of the improvement comes from target selection, and how much comes from "improved game".</i><br /><br />Answer: Of course flirting ability and social skills improve results. People around here don't fully deny that what you say, how you say it and what you do make a difference. That's why Sleazy's book is called "minimal game". It's not called "your actions don't affect your results whatsover".<br /><br />Improving how you do and what you do, does make a difference in your results. Especially if you're going from "freaky, weird and creepy" to "baseline normal seeming and basic charm". <br /><br />But it only affects INTEREST, not attraction. It affects how many girls are wanting to act out on their attraction. <br /><br />What you say and do (game?) also does affect "long-term attraction", but that's a different topic and irrelevant for short-term mating, i.e. hookups and pickups.<br /><br />I personally refuse to call it game, because I associate that term with the absurd notion that you can "create attraction", which is scientifically invalid. It is more accurate to say you can "influence and grow interest". I just call it "flirting and social skills".<br /><br />Sleazy went a different route, and called it "minimal game", to distinguish it from the PUA definition of "game".Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-57492481978188848362016-09-21T05:48:23.195-07:002016-09-21T05:48:23.195-07:00- A girl can find you as much as 2 points higher t...<i>- A girl can find you as much as 2 points higher than your average, due to variability in taste.<br /><br />- A girl can give you as much as 2 points extra for having X (with x being something she has a fetish for)<br /><br />- Niche-specific status can give you as much as 2 points extra<br /><br />- General status (wealth for example) can give you 3 points extra</i><br /><br />And if you're reading this and thinking, wait that's too much. <i> If you combine all of these you get 11 points!?!? So, alek you're saying all guys can just go around and date tens all the time!?!?!</i> Actually, no, it's just to explain freak occurances.<br /><br />a) It's a range. You can get AS MUCH AS 2 points extra... that's the maximum you can expect a girl to give you because of one of these exceptions.<br /><br />If you're a five on average (when rated by the population)... It is possible some girl somewhere will rate your looks as a seven.<br /><br />b) That's the value a quality has on its own, not when combined<br /><br />c) If a girl has "a thing" for chest hair, she might rate you as much as 2 points above your "objective" looks (you get a bonus, lol)... but it might be as little as a 0.1 points advantage.<br /><br />d) The odds that you happen to both hit a girl's specific fetish AND be her type (AND max out on both exceptions) is pretty slim. So don't think it would be common to get <i>"2 points from this, 2 points from this, oh so I can regularily bang chicks 4 points hotter than me with ease, nice!"</i>. And obviously the combined value is smaller. So it's not 2+2...<br /><br />These exceptions are just to explain freak occurrences of guys dating "way hotter girls". <br /><br />- Note how, except for status (which is a universal booster), the rest are just happenstance and pure luck.<br /><br />- If you get status, you can date hotter girls regularly. That is, status is consistent. Let's say you're a five... <br /><br />-- You with regular status might luck out and bang 1 out of 60 random hotties (defining hottie as a girl who's 1-2 points higher). <br /><br />-- This is because of lucking out... <br /><br />--- For example, this is her super-horny-experimentation night and she's willing to bang down. She's a seven, she sees you as a five, but will bang you anyway since no better offer came around. And you seem like you'd be good/ok in bed... <br /><br />--- Or you happen to be her type. Even though you're a five objectively, she sees you as a seven. Or you hit some fetish of hers, you just have X that she has a "thing for".<br /><br />That's how you get 1 in 60 hotties... you're "lucking out".<br /><br />-- NOW... You with status might get to as low as 1 in 15 (in a niche you're famous in).<br /><br />- The other qualities (outside of status) just explain how a no-status dude sometimes lucks out and dates a hotter girl. You can't purposefully grow chest-hair and consistently get a better ratio, since you don't know which chicks have that specific fetish. <br /><br />Though <b>you can</b> get better at recognizing chicks who are willing to bang down, or are giving you extra points because of "having x" or being her type or whatever.<br /><br />With experience you get "subconcious recognition" of girls you have a higher chance with. That's one explanation why PUAs (and experienced guys) do over-time get better girls (or better ratios). They attribute all of it to "improved game", but ignore how much of it is just "better target selection".<br /><br />If you forced them to try and lay the first 100 girls they cross paths with, it wouldn't be THAT much higher than when they started. Such a test would prove how much of the improvement comes from target selection, and how much comes from "improved game".Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-9360454830944616082016-09-20T16:48:27.603-07:002016-09-20T16:48:27.603-07:00@Sparrow, that question is a good segueway into th...@Sparrow, that question is a good segueway into the next clarification.<br /><br />I said this:<br /><i> The full explanation would be a 90 page book, to include all the clarifications and other factors... including long-term vs short term... interest vs attraction... Variability in grading.</i><br /><br />- A girl can find you as much as 2 points higher than your average, due to variability in taste.<br /><br />- A girl can give you as much as 2 points extra for having X (with x being something she has a fetish for)<br /><br />- Niche-specific status can give you as much as 2 points extra<br /><br />- General status (wealth for example) can give you 3 points extra<br /><br />- The ratio of personality-based vs looks-based attraction shifts in long-term mating. If (random example) her rating of you as a hookup partner is based 90% on looks, and 10% on personality. Then her rating of you for a boyfriend might be as much as 50% based on personality.<br /><br />(Personality-based is an oversimplified phrase i'm using to capture every quality that's not static about you, i.e. your actions, what you do for her, around her, for the relationship etc).<br /><br />If you luck out on enough of these things that allow her to "go down", you might even date a girl who's 4-5 points above you in looks (objectively, based on how each of you would be rated on average). In her head it might be just 2 points. And she doesn't mind those 2 points coz you make up for it in other ways.<br /><br />In the case of this chick, that's probably the combination that's going on. Status is quite a boost. This guy's got wealth (general status), plus he's got specific status in her specific industry? And this is a relationship (she's his, probably taken care off financially and provided for "girlfriend").<br /><br />Try to guess how many girls of her calibre he can hook up with, if he cold-approached them in a club and "spit game" at them? <br /><br /><b>The important thing again, is these are exceptions</b><br /><br />People selling "game" are trying to use these stories as some sort of evidence you can control attraction. But exceptions disprove rules.<br /><br />If you're a five guy who's got a blonde goatee, go hit on a 100 girls who are a seven. You eventually hit on a girl who has a fetish for blonde-haired goatees. That exception proves the rule (that's why it took a 100 attempts to find one). The pua excuse is (it took 99 approaches for my "game" to kick in".<br />Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-29740742456802492562016-09-20T13:27:39.758-07:002016-09-20T13:27:39.758-07:00The biggest benefit of meditation are mental clari...The biggest benefit of meditation are mental clarity and stability.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-59196765934048348642016-09-20T13:26:39.349-07:002016-09-20T13:26:39.349-07:00I'm just about to become more active again onl...I'm just about to become more active again online. I'll publish Club Game for Kindle very soon. It's literally the top item on my to-do list now. Afterwards, I'll move on to the meditation book, which has been in an almost complete state for far too long. Note that it won't be published as an "Aaron Sleazy" book, but I will announce it on this blog regardless.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-74420541887805185822016-09-20T13:24:16.464-07:002016-09-20T13:24:16.464-07:00Being the "big man on campus" certainly ...Being the "big man on campus" certainly means "high status" in this context.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-20199902932567161212016-09-20T13:22:51.372-07:002016-09-20T13:22:51.372-07:00Thanks for posting this, Patropi! I am glad you fo...Thanks for posting this, Patropi! I am glad you found my work useful. Feel free to drop me a line once once you are in Europe. So far, I have always found it quite interesting to hear from long-time followers. Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-7739399618677510802016-09-19T22:09:49.430-07:002016-09-19T22:09:49.430-07:00I just found this article (I don't know how ol...I just found this article (I don't know how old is it)<br />http://www.sosuave.com/articles/aoa/avoid.htm<br />It's quite hilarious how he tries to advertise his book, yet at the same time he killed the whole point of buying his product. <br /><br /><b>Or is it?</b><br /><br />Well, that's the quid of this whole PUA issue, what keep them alive. Of course that getting girls is simple if you're a normal guy that doesn't overcomplicate his shit. Yet insecure guys like to read too much between lines. After all, if getting girls was <i>that</i> simple, then why are they so lonely? Of course there must be something missing there! Just like that episode of South Park about the Gnomes:<br /><i>1.- Stole underpants<br />2.- ????<br />3.- Profit!</i><br />For those guys, the "normal" method that Aaron, Alek and others advise reads like this:<br /><i>1.- Be a cool guy/be attractive<br />2.- Ask girls out<br />3.- ?????<br />4.- Sex</i><br />It gets worse because we all know that, even when all girls like sex, not all girls have the same personalities and not all girls are attracted to the same kind of guys. Yeah, we know it: "find your niche". The problem is, a lot of guys don't even know what kind of girls want because, err... well... They don't even know a lot of girls to actually have some kind of preferred kind of girl. Also, they lack basic social skills. So... That's when PUA's enter. They try to replace basic experience and social skills with a cookie-cutter method, that is more of a placebo rather than an actually useful way to getting your dick wet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-10159180638162966962016-09-16T18:27:18.744-07:002016-09-16T18:27:18.744-07:00Hi again Sleazy.
Just wanted to make this public ...Hi again Sleazy.<br /><br />Just wanted to make this public comment 'cause I think somehow I own you this.<br /><br />I want to stress that although some of my ideas on politics, society and philosophy probably differ a bit from yours, I respect you very, very much sir. Your books and other texts, particularly Minimal Game (which I'd bought many years ago, almost when it was published), have been a great influence on my life. The relationship between men and women is a topic that interests me heavily since I was a teenager, and you, this mysterious and insightful German guy, has helped me so much on how to think and act about it. But not only that: on a gradual basis, I've also found out many interesting relations between your ideas on relationships and different practical and theoretical subjects.<br /><br />So, I hope you'll receive this big thank you from me and that someday in the next 5 years or so I may travel to Europe or wherever you are, so I can say it to you personnally. You've got a friend for life.<br /><br />Thanks!Patropihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07243743946053462795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-83652871677138625742016-09-16T15:40:20.868-07:002016-09-16T15:40:20.868-07:00Hey Alek and Sleazy!
I came across an interestin...Hey Alek and Sleazy! <br /><br />I came across an interesting post by an olden gentlemen on Quora.com, and this man is a professional photographer judging from his profile. What I found interesting was his pictures of his "model girlfriend":<br /><br />https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-best-airline-you-have-flown/answer/Rolando-Gomez-5<br /><br />Yes that young girl next to the guy is his girlfriend, from what he is saying on the comments. Now my question is, would you guess that this model girl in the picture, is a gold digger and is only in a relationship with this old plain looking guy because of his position as a professional photographer and because it's an attention whoring gold digging relationship? I found stuff like this intriguing because it's not something you see everyday. Can professional photographers really get hot 8's and 9 models, as guys like this, regardless of looks and money because of their job? Xaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870653219375132364noreply@blogger.com