tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post4730690936580958441..comments2023-05-17T08:14:10.789-07:00Comments on Men, Women, and Society: The Open Thread: October 2015Aaron Sleazyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-47913452136753399472015-11-16T09:06:24.490-08:002015-11-16T09:06:24.490-08:00are you joking me?
you want to take your height do...are you joking me?<br />you want to take your height down? <br /><br />you got height on your side with women, short guys treated like shit.<br />your height is perfect, on the weight side you are probably right.<br /><br />ah by the way you should have a lot of experience with women, including one night stands if you want to have a chance to meet what you want. because successful experience will be important in detecting the chick and making moves on her. LazyLifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17166776768659209547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-15130291932449582582015-11-07T11:27:14.953-08:002015-11-07T11:27:14.953-08:00Companies like RSD for example have hundreds and h...<i>Companies like RSD for example have hundreds and hundreds of video's with hours of content for various instructors, no wonder guys get confused about it when they make pickup seem like a rocket science that requires years of hard study. Thoughts?</i><br /><br />That's on purpose. Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-71516283569075567452015-11-06T04:39:00.861-08:002015-11-06T04:39:00.861-08:00Yep, if you make a "dangerous" move :
-...Yep, if you make a "dangerous" move :<br /><br />- a girl that doesn't like you will stop you and go away/never contact you again<br /><br />- a girl that likes you (but has some issues with being sexual early) will stop you but she will happily stay around you and will keep wanting to see you despite your risky move<br /><br /><br />When the girl likes you, it's almost impossible to fuck up.<br /><br />For example, I am very sexually aggressive and try to make out within the first 5 minutes with each girl. I get 3 reactions :<br /><br />- dumb cunts that wanted to extract some resources from me (attention, a drink, a dinner, a doormat-boyfriend, etc.) get angry and immediately leave the interaction hating me<br /><br />- girls that are attracted to me but don't want to be sexual too early refuse the makeout (or accept the makeout but no more) but are still happily around me and eventually I will fuck her (I had a girl I made out with in the street within 5 minutes of approaching her, yet she only allowed me to fuck her on second date because first date was too soon)<br /><br />- girls that are attracted to me and have no problem with being sexual early make out with me and we fuck soon after (when we have logistics)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-83062042664253163192015-11-06T03:13:11.780-08:002015-11-06T03:13:11.780-08:00I also apologize for posting the same question twi...I also apologize for posting the same question twice, but under different names. This was due to a computer crash that made me think i lost my post without submitting it. Wasn't the case, even though i typed it again thinking it was. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14500707004769880365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-55665773368037908532015-11-06T03:11:22.541-08:002015-11-06T03:11:22.541-08:00Thanks to both of you for your replies. Admitted t...Thanks to both of you for your replies. Admitted that being a little inexperienced myself, i've wasted a good amount of time as a lurker of various PUAs. Although i was never a hardcore fanboy of any particular company, i had this gut feeling that something about the community was off. Another part of me, however, wondered if there was such a thing as a ''skill set'', as in: By displaying the right behaviours, verbals, sending out the right vibe etc. you can get women into bed.<br /><br />I believe that is possible, but there's a HUGE but. I tend to think women are just as superficial as men in many ways, and upon seeing a guy they can make up their minds quite quickly whether they want to fuck him or not. However, since she as a female rarely displays the active role and deals with other shit like her image / sluttiness / etc. the skill set you guys talk about is knowing how to deal with these things, combined with basic not being a total social fucktard. Really, if females are selectors in the mating domain agreeing to you guys, doesn't this mean that all this shit is predetermined and all the guy gotta do is be sexual and don't fuck it up?<br /><br />I find it beyond stupid that PUAs sell their audience the idea of things like status, popularity and ESPECIALLY looks being no factor at all. From a marketing perspective it's smart to say this, considering the gullible audience that PUAs attract. Hey, they want to be told what they want right? I think the key to getting a lot of women is to build yourself up as a man in those important key areas of social status/skills/looks/physique and simply take a proactive effort to meet women. No need to make it as complicated as the PUAs do. <br /><br />Companies like RSD for example have hundreds and hundreds of video's with hours of content for various instructors, no wonder guys get confused about it when they make pickup seem like a rocket science that requires years of hard study. Thoughts?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14500707004769880365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-83717097037841485932015-11-04T15:26:16.703-08:002015-11-04T15:26:16.703-08:00I have to call BS on a part of my own post. I carr...I have to call BS on a part of my own post. I carried away and actually placed pua-style lingo in there:<br /><br /><i>"exactly when to approach, exactly when to make a move"</i><br /><br />There's no "exact" time to do anything. That's just me subconciously channeling leftover pua-marketer speak. <br /><br />And hence, this brings up another difference between puas and non-puas. <br /><br />- PUA marketers will fear-monger you that there's a correct, exact way to do things, and unless you do it, all hell breaks loose.<br /><br />- Whereas someone like Aaron will helpfully inform you that in all honesty, if a girl's into you, she will generally be flexible. It's not like if you ask for a date in one way, she'll totally lose all interest, and ask another way and she falls in love with ya (as pua marketers would have you believe).<br /><br />There is a skill to not doing it completely idiotically, but it's more of a range in what's statistically more likely to not turn her off/scare her off - rather than "exact sentence to say to cause exact response from her".Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-51592538993037894292015-11-04T10:41:42.972-08:002015-11-04T10:41:42.972-08:00Hi Alek. Do you know of any good honest non-pua d...Hi Alek. Do you know of any good honest non-pua dating coaches around the NYC area where a guy can learn the "skills" you describe above and will give you feedback on what you might be doing wrong?anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08136577705375370228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-59307518685275940872015-11-02T17:55:34.469-08:002015-11-02T17:55:34.469-08:00Its pretty sumple dude. There's no contradicti...Its pretty sumple dude. There's no contradiction if you understand one fundamental principle of non-puas... it goes as<br /><br />"You can't create attraction, you can only adjust and work around whatever exists"<br /><br />- PUAs sell the idea of "skills that create attraction"<br />- NonPua dating experts merely teach you dating & social skills that assume attraction is static.<br /><br />Even when attraction is a static factor (and it is) - there's still a skill to for example knowing exactly when to approach, exactly when to make a move, when its time to ask her to come with you.<br /><br />For example there's a skill to how to talk to her so you don't make her feel easy/slutty in front of her friends, yet be flirtateous enough so as to show interest (its a skill and a balancing act)...<br /><br />Here's the difference from PUAs.<br /><br />A PUA will tell you that what you said "boosted her attraction". <br />A non-pua will tell you that what you said "helped her admit her pre-exiting attraction"<br /><br />Do you understand the difference?<br />Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-4332705438770737922015-11-02T12:19:54.599-08:002015-11-02T12:19:54.599-08:00Same guy as before. Well, think really hard about ...Same guy as before. Well, think really hard about what I mean when I speak of "skills" in the context of those sources, and what your typical PUA gurus try to sell you as "skills". You may realize that there is an enormous difference. I'm not interested in arguing about semantics. Further, I consider it rather dishonest to quote from a forum post I hastily wrote well before I published any books, and claim that this would constitute a contradiction because it doesn't match 100 % with what I wrote in a book years later, even though the spirit (!) of both the book and that post is the very same.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-18324497629612885232015-11-02T12:14:39.899-08:002015-11-02T12:14:39.899-08:00Dude, the problem lies in indiscriminately approac...Dude, the problem lies in indiscriminately approaching women. Further, I very heavily stress that "game" is mostly over by the time you open your mouth because your foundations, as I call it, have such an enormous effect. Very little of my writing focuses on "skills". Maybe read some more, and with an open mind, before jumping to conclusions. Besides, we have had this discussion, in a much more nuanced way, on both this blog and the forum, so please do your homework in case you want to respond.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-69331668178988154262015-11-02T01:31:13.993-08:002015-11-02T01:31:13.993-08:00I lost my virginity when I was 28. Had my first ki...I lost my virginity when I was 28. Had my first kiss at 27. So, 25 is not that bad. Let me tell you this, nobody's going to fix shit for you, because nobody gives a fuck about you, okay? :-) Now you know everything and it's time to rock n roll.<br /><br />Dr. Poo Aah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-77943420675839580292015-10-28T16:50:05.362-07:002015-10-28T16:50:05.362-07:00Actually I'm pretty asocial. I just happen to ...Actually I'm pretty asocial. I just happen to have hobbies that involve people and make a habit to greet everyone, then greet everyone in their group, then when I meet that acquintance of an acquintance somewhere I greet them too... and then say hello to their friends too. And then saying hi to the people at the next people is much easier (feels more natural, and not contrived/cold).<br /><br />I'm not a social butterfly who's popular and super-friendly with everyone. Just a greeting and wassup... That's it. For fucks sake, I can't even make small-talk.<br /><br />I don't think greeting people and saying hi to the people they're with is a huge investment. And I much prefer it to cold-approaching which is soul destroying and unduly rewards women.<br /><br />After I filled up a certain quota of lays in my life, I decided to never again put in effort in getting laid. I'd rather put in "effort" in greeting and saying hi to people (which gives me access to hundreds of semi-warm approaches), then the effort required in busting through cold-defenses (which are always higher).Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-25518671083004781872015-10-28T15:41:05.095-07:002015-10-28T15:41:05.095-07:00I'm 6'3" and about 265. I don't w...I'm 6'3" and about 265. I don't want to date at my size and people telling me "some girls like a big teddy bear" doesn't make me feel good about myself. Being compared to a football player, a cop, or a soldier only makes me feel worse. I don't want to date a girl who wants some big protector type. I can't fix my height, but I can lose weight if I want to...and I don't think it's a good idea for me to date now considering how I feel about myself.<br /><br />I learned about this site through the baldness angle. I lost my hair early and it's been useful reading some intelligent thoughts about it other than "just get big bro" or "looks don't matter" or "some rich celeb is bald and still gets girls." It helps because I admit I often get into the loser mentality of "I'm bald, therefore I'm ugly and can never date." Reading such pessimism from others makes me see how I must sound to others. I feel bad for them, but even I, who is totally sympathetic to balding guys, started to get annoyed (like people felt about me).<br /><br />Though I've enjoyed what I read, I wonder if I'm in the wrong place. While I like the tough, honest approach to what men and women want, sex is not as high a priority for me than companionship is. I don't want one-night stands, I want an equal. I'm not saying it's wrong for guys to crave sex, but that's just not who I am.<br /><br />I'm hoping that if I lose enough weight (I want to get below 200 lbs), I'll see myself as dateable and not a third-class citizen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-57286618239015195532015-10-28T12:22:12.956-07:002015-10-28T12:22:12.956-07:00I wonder how long until we'll start hearing ho...I wonder how long until we'll start hearing horror stories from the manosphere about marrying women from third-world countries. I found this article funny but also likely the truth for most of the manosphere, <br /><br />http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.ca/2015/01/is-roosh-banging-hookers-in-third-world.html<br /><br />In a few years time, I suspect we'll hear some nasty stuff about how their wives only seemed to be interested in them to obtain their American citizenship and once they received it, they couldn't wait to get rid of them, get the man they really wanted, and get half their assets. Not saying it happens all the time, but I think some of these manosphere guys are in a for a rude awakening. simpleguyskillshttp://simpleguyskills.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-66999325474090108912015-10-28T12:12:00.357-07:002015-10-28T12:12:00.357-07:00That's VERY true lazylife. Her household skil...That's VERY true lazylife. Her household skills (cooking, cleaning, etc., etc.) how good of a mother she would make, also play a role in a long term commitment, but being attractive and easy to get along is plenty to get most women by. Most guys don't even seem to care that much what she does for a job, if she even has one. Even if you were to boast to your friends how you landed a lawyer or doctor, they'd still say, "Pics?" simpleguyskillshttp://simpleguyskills.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-61523669908691119292015-10-27T19:04:59.476-07:002015-10-27T19:04:59.476-07:00I saw this and I wanted to share it with you guys
...I saw this and I wanted to share it with you guys<br />http://redpilltimes.com/a-womans-guide-to-cheating-this-honest-deception-video-baits-men-into-becoming-cuckold-beta-chumps/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-67180510303919256182015-10-27T11:28:15.697-07:002015-10-27T11:28:15.697-07:00I came across this absolutely fantastic video, fro...I came across this absolutely fantastic video, from a different context, but totally applicable to everything dating related. <br /><br />http://qz.com/502149/video-ory-okolloh-explains-why-africa-cant-entrepreneur-itself-out-of-its-basic-problems/<br /><br />She talks about fetishization of entrepreneurship in an African context, and says, Africa can't out-entprenreneur around basic problems. The idea in dating is similar. You cannot out-game basic problems like social skills, lifestyle, looks etc. Johnnyhttp://anti-pua-johnny.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-29814335648462132012015-10-26T11:05:24.126-07:002015-10-26T11:05:24.126-07:00For men, all that count is physical attractiveness...For men, all that count is physical attractiveness.<br />i will add that how nice is a woman, and how tolerable she is , also does matter.<br />if she is too crazy and hot as fuck, you dont bother.<br />LazyLifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17166776768659209547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-33463203041587842442015-10-26T10:07:46.347-07:002015-10-26T10:07:46.347-07:00and reading alek for a while, alek normal "i ...and reading alek for a while, alek normal "i meet 234 a month without going out if my way".<br />not everyone will have a lifestyle where they meet so much women, and say you want things, not always it will lead to lifestyle where you can meet a lot of women, even if you are succesful at getting them.<br />alek your lifestyle (meeting celebs in your country on regular basis)<br />is not something we can get easily, and simply doing it to meet more women is going out of ones own way.<br />and also i dont enjoy socializing with girls, its boring and girls are crazy.<br />ah, surely it can be fine you if meet a cool chick, but thats too rare.<br />i just want to fuck them. i am more like marco. but dont have his ballz.<br />and i too dont meet 40 new girls a month without out of my way.<br />LazyLifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17166776768659209547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-73186443224297171552015-10-25T10:08:36.957-07:002015-10-25T10:08:36.957-07:00Holy crap, dude, you called it. Those ROK crazies ...Holy crap, dude, you called it. Those ROK crazies are saying that Putin is the new "proto-tsar" of Russia now(whatever that means) and some of commenters are actually labelling him the "last hope of mankind". I honestly beginning to doubt if some of them are actually real life paid Kremlin agents. Nobody can be this stupid. Hell, they are even praising that nutjob "philosopher" Dugin, whose ideas are pretty much fascist nonsense. The manosphere is truly losing it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-2964673392995507002015-10-22T02:24:53.505-07:002015-10-22T02:24:53.505-07:00Hey Sleazy,
I've found two posts from you tha...Hey Sleazy,<br /><br />I've found two posts from you that are very contradictory.<br />Here's the links to them:<br /><br />http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.nl/2012/04/why-cold-approaching-is-pretty-much.html<br />http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=512&sid=297d326988dfe3de95203d5453b42637<br /><br />You tell guys that getting laid is a 'skill set' that can be LEARNED. And that the way to get good is to go out a lot, hit on chicks constantly and eventually you will 'train yourself' and 'get better at it.'<br />You call yourself a game denialist, yet isn't this what all mainstream PUA companies that are so fond of 'game' preach? What about proximity and general self-improvement?<br /><br />Yet in your other blog article, you bash cold approach saying that it's useless. So on the one side you tell guys to improve their 'skills' by cold approaching and going out but on the other side you say cold approach doesn't work or is a bad way to meet women. You also state that online game or warm approach is too 'safe and low-risk' to be really valuable to learn from. Isn't that a complete contradiction?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14500707004769880365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-84891890653730224562015-10-22T02:19:28.460-07:002015-10-22T02:19:28.460-07:00Hey Sleazy,
In your book 'Minimal Game' y...Hey Sleazy,<br /><br />In your book 'Minimal Game' you deny that there is a skill-set to getting women and that there is 'no secret behind it'. In one of your blog posts, ''Cold approaching is useless'' you give the imperssion that cold approach is a bad way to meet women. Now i already feel this old tiring dreaded proximity vs. cold approach debate coming up (just like looks vs. game). But okay, ill get to the point. In your short seduction article on your forum you say that 'getting laid is a skill that can be learned.' These two statements are complete contradictions. No skill set but you gotta go out 24/7 to 'train and improve'? I was always a fan of your work and i agree with a lof of stuf that you write, but for the first time Aaron you're posting two completely different viewpoints that just don't fit into one image.<br /><br /><br />The links to these contradicting documents i will provide here:<br />http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.nl/2012/04/why-cold-approaching-is-pretty-much.html<br /><br />http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=512&sid=297d326988dfe3de95203d5453b42637Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14500707004769880365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-59199017927810710602015-10-18T12:06:44.995-07:002015-10-18T12:06:44.995-07:00Wrong Isidia, like men, women have preferences. So...Wrong Isidia, like men, women have preferences. Some like banging husky/fat guys. Just like some good looking dudes bang/marry land whales. Nature is not one sided. Nature is always experimenting. Yes, in the middle of the curve, we see your representation as the majority. But there are always the tails on these curves, beginning and end. DeNihilistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-52283406297701307532015-10-16T22:13:09.410-07:002015-10-16T22:13:09.410-07:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27wabHGCac
https...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x27wabHGCac<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRK8eiS_f_g<br /><br /><br />Proof attraction can be created. RSD proves it on video<br /><br />inb4 fake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-69870296717722880442015-10-16T12:23:14.928-07:002015-10-16T12:23:14.928-07:00"Well, the deal is it is highly that they har..."Well, the deal is it is highly that they hardly have any sexual relationship between them. The naïveté of these guys are just incredible."<br /><br />I just wanted to post sth and then I saw your post. It fits very well.<br /><br />Check this out:<br />RSD always good for a laugh, the present their new instructor: a fat dude, and then in the video you see some "action", like chicks around that dude.<br /><br />Now look closely, only half-ass sh*t going on between them. Every girls energy is saying "haha nice and funny, but I ain't fuckin' this guy".<br /><br />Not sure what's more hilarious, the fat dude, or the comments below, already worshipping the fat dude for his skills...<br /><br />Show em dude, hahaaha<br /><br />ad that only to promote his probably USD 6000 oot camp in Vegas or some shit...<br /><br />I can't believe I used to watch these guys' videos and think I know sth the rest of the world did not know... I stopped and since then I feel way better.<br /><br />May lay count is 16, which is probably sixteen times higher than anybody of the whole rsd crew, except we count them fucking each other in the ass as lays, The they beat me for sure.<br /><br />Hilarious this gang, just hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com