tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post6357489481945987545..comments2023-05-17T08:14:10.789-07:00Comments on Men, Women, and Society: Commentary on Presence's BreakthroughAaron Sleazyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-5585702301971638682012-05-01T14:50:32.957-07:002012-05-01T14:50:32.957-07:00I'm now convinced this blog is a cesspool of i...I'm now convinced this blog is a cesspool of idiocy.<br /><br />"LOLOLOLO COLD APPROACH FAKE NUMBER"<br /><br />Are you so fucking obtuse that you can't judge from the interaction whether the woman is into you or not?<br /><br />Cold/warm approach, doesn't fucking matter. If a hot girl shows interest I'm more inclined to approach her, yes, but I wouldn't be getting IOIs in the first place if I hadn't been talking to everyone the whole night and having fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-55254510652959311962012-04-29T19:56:34.258-07:002012-04-29T19:56:34.258-07:00AA is not a function of what the girl is doing, bu...AA is not a function of what the girl is doing, but a function of your intentions.<br /><br />If you believe it is your job to "get" the girl into you, you might well feel AA even if she is giving you warm signals. You might well feel that you can "mess it up" or that the warm signals are merely an invitation to "prove" yourself. In that sense, warm signals can be scarier than cold signals. She is sort of into you and now you must "perform".<br /><br />AA is merely a kind of performance anxiety, and as long as you think you must "perform", you might well feel AA. <br /><br />The only way to eliminate AA is to move away from the idea that you have to "perform" on any level or in any fashion whatsoever. It simply does not matter how you act or what you do. You are not for one moment trying to "prove" anything to the girl or "get" her. You are merely being yourself and talking to her to see if she is already of her own free choice - independent of anything YOU do - into you.<br /><br />As long as you on any level whatsoever wish to make the outcome dependent on what YOU do, you run the risk of contracting AA, which is just another kind of performance anxiety. <br /><br />You have to completely surrender the outcome to forces outside your control. It is not up to you. All you can do is go and see if the forces are aligning in your favor. If they are, great. If not, you walk away. But you do not "perform" and you do not need to "prove" anything, and you CANNOT "mess it up".Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-80874579692501414242012-04-29T11:55:54.643-07:002012-04-29T11:55:54.643-07:00The problem is that everybody treats Sleazy or pic...The problem is that everybody treats Sleazy or pickup community as absolute rules. We all know that dating world is full of uncertainty and different for each girls. Some girls are crazy, some girls are smart, some girls are more into Indie side, some are emos. Some like nerdy guys, some like douchebag guys.<br /><br />If we just look at Sleazy's advice as general guidelines then we should be okay.<br /><br />IME, I also agree that AA is the same regardless whether girls give me warm signals or cold signals. I remember so many times some girls gave me that "come on approach me" look but I was so taken by my AA I literally froze up eventhough I knew if I talk to them they'll be warm and receptive. AA is very powerful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-22745350611602293242012-04-29T06:26:43.016-07:002012-04-29T06:26:43.016-07:00I don't think it is Sleazy's fault if you ...I don't think it is Sleazy's fault if you misunderstand him. <br /><br />You seem to look at things in a very polarized black and white fashion. When Sleazy says something is mostly this way or that way, you see it as a rule. He is not giving rules or absolutes, only guidelines and generalities.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-58395470989835629332012-04-29T05:04:49.559-07:002012-04-29T05:04:49.559-07:00Also,I did wrote a post on pua-zone.com which answ...Also,I did wrote a post on pua-zone.com which answers your question in more detail. I think that for some guys with AA cold approaching might be better to start with. <br />I am talking about guys who cant approach even when girl is clearly interested in meeting him.<br />So,you will say,that doesnt make any sense,if he cant approach even then,then how is cold approaching going to be any easier for him ?<br />If you are interested in my opinion why is cold approaching easier to start with,feel free to check out that thread its locked like all other threads where people were debating about this topic,its in general section.<br />Keep in mind this only applies to some guys. If you never been social in a way tats describe,its not for you. If you can do warm approaches,its not for you.SexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-52160439862058613912012-04-29T04:34:35.746-07:002012-04-29T04:34:35.746-07:00I was not commenting about cold approaching this t...I was not commenting about cold approaching this time at all.<br />My first comment was about Sleazy's opinion that you should not have AA if you dont cold approach,which is not true.<br />AA is not just fear or rejection,its also fear of unknown.<br />If you didnt approach strangers before,it wont metter how much she seems interested in talking with you-you will still have AA.<br />You people keep bringing cold approach debate again,haven't we had enough of that :)<br />Nobody should talk with women who give off "fuck off" vibe.<br />OFC talking with women who seems more open to approach is better idea. But its not so important for a newbee to wait for specific IOI's meant for him such as eye contact. If girl seems approachable,its enough for people who have AA to practice on.SexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-5791114629814656792012-04-29T04:25:20.881-07:002012-04-29T04:25:20.881-07:00Exactly ! This is the point I was trying to make. ...Exactly ! This is the point I was trying to make. Sleazy was trying to say that you only will have AA if you try to indiscriminately cold approach women.<br />If,on the other hand,you do only warm approaches,you should not have AA at all.<br />Which is simply not true. Most people starting will have same level of AA for any approach-warm or coldSexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-32591320133104219492012-04-29T04:25:17.054-07:002012-04-29T04:25:17.054-07:00Hmm, your apology means you are more humble than m...Hmm, your apology means you are more humble than most defending PUAs, so I will bite.<br /><br />It is true that even an average guy of average social succes could get sometimes AA if checked out by a cutie in a club.<br /><br />Why does that imply he has to practice by indiscriminately hitting on other women with "fuck off, don't talk to me" body language?<br /><br />Why can't he practice on women with warm postures and inviting positions and vibes? Every club has at least a dozen groups of warm and open giggly girls darting their eyes across the room. Why not practice on those?<br /><br />??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-49131713908299818602012-04-29T04:17:02.760-07:002012-04-29T04:17:02.760-07:00Actually I re-read the post and he was talking abo...Actually I re-read the post and he was talking about "guys who have never been social". I just replied in haste,so I apologize.<br />But like I said,these guys are in minority. Most guys are atleast somewhat social,have girls in their social circles etc...<br />It does not meat they wont have AA when some hottie checks him out in a club,if they are not used talking to strangersSexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-88865995458777286792012-04-29T04:14:14.753-07:002012-04-29T04:14:14.753-07:00Hey people, did anyone catch that cowardice meme?
...Hey people, did anyone catch that cowardice meme?<br /><br />From my experience it takes the same amount of Courage to approach a woman on the street in either case. It is the same whether she looks closed off and uninterested to meet men, or if her eyes are darting and she seems in heat. It requires the same amount of courage to approach either one. <br /><br />One will produce no results. The other is an easy lay. I don't understand why you are a coward if you choose which one to approach. That's like saying that throwing darts with closed eyes is more courageous than throwing darts with eyes open.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-6153559748716109932012-04-29T04:09:42.350-07:002012-04-29T04:09:42.350-07:00It's right there in both of his posts.
You g...It's right there in both of his posts. <br /><br />You guys say that inexperienced men should pester random uninterested women to overcome anxiety. <br /><br />Tats responded that this is wrong and that a man with No Previous Social Dating Experience should start out in social circles First and only then move up. Did you notice the word FIRST? It is not the fault of tats that you morons fail reading comprehension.<br /><br />Two hours later tats posted another comment clarifying that he is only talking about inexperienced men, and to stop twisting his words. So either you can't read, and failed both times, or you are pretending on purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-31373317755314221002012-04-29T04:04:06.865-07:002012-04-29T04:04:06.865-07:00People seem vague to you due to your social inexpe...People seem vague to you due to your social inexperience. You will find all the more socially experienced people know exactly what Tats and Aaron say, but those of you who are still struggling with AA consider them vague.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-78713198048468471782012-04-29T03:38:44.566-07:002012-04-29T03:38:44.566-07:00I was not commenting anything about what Sleazy wr...I was not commenting anything about what Sleazy wrote,I was only commenting tatsdieselgunz post. Where did he say in his post he was only talking about 30y old virgins ? <br />Yeah,I guess I lack reading comprehension or just maybe some guys here are little too vague and not clear enough in their posts.SexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-77479969574382770972012-04-29T03:26:17.780-07:002012-04-29T03:26:17.780-07:00Where did I say anything about cold approaching in...Where did I say anything about cold approaching in this comment ? I just say that even if some guys are very social and talk with women in social siuations,group,circles they still may have approach axniety when they see unknown woman chechking him out on the street,park,bar club etc...<br />I said in my first comment that if you have approach anxiety and can force yourself only to approach warm prospects despite your approach anxiety,then great,that what you should doSexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-11577871700083073552012-04-28T18:32:46.039-07:002012-04-28T18:32:46.039-07:00tatsdieselgunz
It's interesting how this PUA ...<b>tatsdieselgunz</b><br /><br />It's interesting how this PUA completely twisted your words and misrepresented what people say on here. Aaron once asked them if they lack reading comprehension. I think they are pretending to read wrong on purpose so they can keep putting up strawmen.<br /><br />For example look at this strawman<br /><br /><b>If you are fine meeting girls only through social activities,social circles,your job, etc.. then good for you.</b><br /><br /><br />Tats, do you see how this Pua Shill is lying? <br /><br />Hey Shill, nobody here, aaron or anyone else has E-V-E-R said that you should O-N-L-Y meet women in social circles and jobs. Why do you lie!!<br /><br /><b>That's great if want only a gf etc.. Most men want more,ONS,FB,MLTRs etc..</b><br /><br />Most people who have one-night-stands, fuck-buddies and MLTRs meet them in normal venues such as salsa parties, networking events, seminars, friends of friends, facebook and campus and birthday parties and contests etc.<br /><br />But it doesn't matter, since nobody ever told you not to approach strangers, so you keep lying. You just<br /><br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />and then you lie some more<br /><br />What Aaron has said is to not waste time on women who don't seem DTF or easy to pickup. He didn't say to only do social circles.<br /><br />Why<br />do<br />you<br />lie PUA Shills?<br /><br /><b>Most men are not fine only meeting girls way you describe. They want to pickup chicks in clubs,bars,parks,streets,while shoping,doing daily errands etc</b><br /><br />And tatsdieselgunz is not preventing them from doing so. Neither is Aaron.<br /><br />Why<br />Do<br />You<br />Lie<br />PuaShills?<br /><br />Why do you misrepresent Aaron's advice? Why do you lie about Tats advice?<br /><br />PUA say if you see chick with nice boobs in super market, go harass her.<br /><br />Aaron say if you see a chick with nice boobs in supermarket and she seems DTF, go give her cock.<br /><br />Why do you lie PUAShills? Why do you <br /><br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />?<br /><br />Why do you say that Aaron is telling you to not fuck chicks from supermarket. Why do you lie puashills. Why lie lie lie lie?<br /><br />Tats, see the next lie this PUAShill said<br /><br /><b>Most people are not as unsocial as you describe. </b><br /><br />Tats never said that most people are unsocial. He said that 30 year old virgins should become social first, before they go around harassing random women.<br /><br />He didn't say all people are unsocial. He says that people who are unsocial should begin by becoming social and getting social circles and lays there first. He didn't say that everyone should only do social circles ever. He didn't say they should stick to only social circles forever and ever and ever.<br /><br />Why do you <br /><br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />lie<br />pua shills?NonTard Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-52966540823589507862012-04-28T18:10:17.147-07:002012-04-28T18:10:17.147-07:00You admit that you couldn't get many lays from...You admit that you couldn't get many lays from cold approaching but you are still telling men to go around pestering women. <br /><br />There is no logic to what you are saying. Pester random women with a pissed off look in order to improve around women who are interested?!?<br /><br />That makes no sense!!!!!<br /><br />Why not practice directly on warm women? There are hundreds of them everywhere and you might get laid in the process. Why practice on women who look closed off? You yourself admit it didn't get you laid much despite being such a defender of being a creep and harassing random women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-47014282180854909732012-04-28T17:59:39.162-07:002012-04-28T17:59:39.162-07:00People are rude to you because you are full of shi...People are rude to you because you are full of shit and keep treating people like children, and you keep insulting their intelligence by repeating marketing points. <br /><br />I have no idea why one should be kind to a sleazy scammer who keeps pestering you and following you down the street, peddling his wares and shoving them in your face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-18670231540142907612012-04-28T16:09:06.539-07:002012-04-28T16:09:06.539-07:00He was responding to some other guy.
I just found ...He was responding to some other guy.<br />I just found his response funny and silly,thats all.<br />If anyone sounds as some nerd or tard and very juvenile,its anti-pua guys on this comments. Is it just coincidance that all guys who somewhat disagreed with Sleazy points were civil and normal ? <br />I once visited puahate website never to come again. It was clear that is the place where miscalibrated socially awkard virgins gather. ( of course there is always exceptions ).<br />If you guys came from that website,I am not suprised by your childish and insulting comments.SexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-86267230284189578152012-04-28T15:55:14.242-07:002012-04-28T15:55:14.242-07:00You didn't answer any of his points. Ad homine...You didn't answer any of his points. Ad hominems are not a good response. He obliterated you to pieces SexualHero.<br /><br />Also, you started with the hominems by saying that people who don't follow your religions are cowardly.<br /><br />I think people get mad and negative with you pua trolls because you keep pestering and saying the same programmed things over and over and over again. You just go on and on like programmed zombies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-904468910770817932012-04-28T15:52:57.117-07:002012-04-28T15:52:57.117-07:00Unless you're a creep with no social skills
I...<b>Unless you're a creep with no social skills</b><br /><br />It is precisely creeps with no social skills who approach women from the behind without seeing if the woman is open to an approach.<br /><br /><b> women find cold approaching very attractive and sexy</b><br /><br />Yes, and they give you a fake number, and they never fuck you. But you get to home and jerk off to how you made some woman's day and how much she liked you approaching her. But you're still jerking off to a kleenex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-8437708777210207512012-04-28T15:50:56.744-07:002012-04-28T15:50:56.744-07:00Guys who pull something like that wouldn't get...<b>Guys who pull something like that wouldn't get so excited over some stupid debate on the internet.</b><br /><br />Guys who get laid do not go around pestering every chick in a bad mood they see on the street. Only socially mis-calibrated PUA virgins do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-63864890638412066972012-04-28T15:49:14.587-07:002012-04-28T15:49:14.587-07:00It's a total myth by the pua scam community th...<i>It's a total myth by the pua scam community that normal guy's don't get laid </i><br /><br />They have to keep repeating that to scare you and make you stick to PUA crap. The truth is that far more AFCs get laid than PUAs.<br /><br />The average PUA has less lays and dates than the average person PUA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-88296417719679793412012-04-28T15:43:27.335-07:002012-04-28T15:43:27.335-07:00Problem with most guys who dont get laid is that t...Problem with most guys who dont get laid is that they do fuck it up and dont make their move at all,or in timely fashion while chick is still interested.SexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-16794543672482159122012-04-28T15:40:39.316-07:002012-04-28T15:40:39.316-07:00LOL why so much hatred and negativity ? I highly d...LOL why so much hatred and negativity ? I highly doubt you are kind of guy who approach 2 women and get one blowjob.<br />Guys who pull something like that wouldn't get so excited over some stupid debate on the internet.SexualHeronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-53057063411626406612012-04-28T15:30:35.264-07:002012-04-28T15:30:35.264-07:00Psychotic posted this brainwashed crap, let's ...<b>Psychotic posted this brainwashed crap, let's dissect it</b><br /><i>I said it before and I'll say it again. Only COWARDS wait for a women to make the first move( shows interest). Many times women are in bad moods or are having bad days and if you have the BALLS to approach her you would learn that underneath the surface is a sweet girl who's lonely. But most of Aaron's GIRL SCOUTS prefer to wait until the girl makes the first move then wonders why they can't get a date to save their life.</i><br /><br /><br />First<br /><br /><i>I said it before and I'll say it again. Only COWARDS wait for a women to make the first move( shows interest).</i><br /><br />YOU FUCKING IDIOTIC FUCKING MORON - <b>Most of us come from a background of doing thousands of indiscriminate approaches you fucked up socially mis-calibrated fuck.</b> We did the comparison ourselves, we're not newbies like you who discovered approaching last week and still haven't learned the finer nuances.<br /><br />THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING "courageous" ABOUT "throwing shit around and hoping some of it sticks" you fucked up loser. BEING UNPRODUCTIVE and WASTING TIME does not MAKE YOUR PENIS LARGER you socially mis-calibrated loser.<br /><br />Second<br /><i>Many times women are in bad moods or are having bad days and if you have the BALLS to approach her you would learn that underneath the surface is a sweet girl who's lonely</i><br /><br /><b>YES THAT IS TRUE - AND SO WHAT?</b><br /><br />Why do you fucked up losers HAVE TO ADMIT that you are UGLY LOSERS WHO HAVE NO LIFE. ANY MAN who looks HALF DECENT is even HALF calibrated NOTICES HUNDREDS of warm signals by HOT women during his NORMAL WEEK. That is on top of having dozens of chicks hit on him while he is doing his networking, hobbies and living his life. THOSE CHICKS ARE EQUALLY CUTE. <br /><br /><b>Do you understand you fucked up loser that if you had dozens of 9s hitting on you each week, and you had the social calibration to notice the hundreds of warm chicks each week, you wouldn't HAVE TIME or even desire to pester random cold chicks for the 0.1% chance she might be interested but in a bad mood</b> DO YOU GET WHAT YOU ADMIT EACH TIME YOU MAKE THESE STATEMENTS YOU LIFELESS LOSERS?<br /><br />IF YOU FUCKING SAW and NOTICED 100s of WARM SIGNALS EVERY FUCKING WEEK would you fucking be so fucking scarcity minded as to have to ATTEMPT EVERY FUCKING UNPRODUCTIVE FEMALE CREATURE THAT YOU EVER NOTICE?<br /><br /><b>Any TWENTY women who give warm signals are JUST AS CUTE as the TWENTY women who are giving cold signals you fucking idiot. And you have a chance of banging 10 of the warm chicks, and it's gonna be fun, easy and cool, whereas you have a chance of fucking 1 of the twenty cold chicks and it's gonna be torture.</b><br /><br />DUDE YOU HAVE SUCH AN INTERNET PENIS FOR CHOOSING THE LESS EFFECTIVE PATH AND HAVING NO LIFE. THAT MAKES YOU SO COURAGEOUUUUUUUUUS.<br /><br /><i>Aaron's GIRL SCOUTS prefer to wait until the girl makes the first move then wonders why they can't get a date to save their life.</i><br /><br /><b>YOU FUCKING SOCIALLY MISCALIBRATED FUCKING LOSERISH MORON. THIS IS HOW 99.9999999999999999999999% of DATES AND LAYS ON THE PLANET HAPPEN YOU FUCKED UP SOCIAL MISFIT</b><br /><br />YOU ARE SO SOCIALLY ANXIOUS AND SOCIALLY BLIND that you don't notice that EVEN when you indiscriminately hit on women, the 5% of times it works for you, it's because you ACCIDENTALLY hit on the chick who was sending warm signals anyway you fucking dork.<br /><br />That's why we can approach 2 chicks in a night and get one blowjob, whereas you fucked up loser creep 20 chicks to get 10 numbers that go nowhere you fucked up loser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com