tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post6770910296567464757..comments2023-05-17T08:14:10.789-07:00Comments on Men, Women, and Society: The Great Manosphere Invasion of Russia (Part II)Aaron Sleazyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-50524163984256947842013-04-08T07:20:27.328-07:002013-04-08T07:20:27.328-07:00"A woman doesn't pick from the men who ha..."A woman doesn't pick from the men who have chosen her. She chooses men, and then goes with whichever one of those men acts first on her interest."<br /><br />Many of the men a woman chooses will have no interest in her (such as the ugly girl talking to me). A woman can show interest in many men who have zero interest in her. A woman can choose many men, but she can only pick from among the men who have chosen her, as well.<br /><br /> <br />Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-65521824378406178342013-04-07T12:19:27.716-07:002013-04-07T12:19:27.716-07:00BTW to be clear: In my last post I was debating no...BTW to be clear: In my last post I was debating non existence of the game defined by you as a way to create sexual attraction. I belive this type of game exists but it is a waste of time.<br /><br />In my first post I was talking about game that is not aiming to create sexual attraction but acting on existing one when you are not trying to spin your wheels to much. Apparently for you this is not a game, but for me it is because I never saw in any mainstream dating advice somene saying how to for example:<br /><br />1.) Select venues that match your goals and improving chances on them(ie. getting laid fast on raves);<br /><br />2.) How to recognize girls that may match your goals (ie. for SNL)<br /><br />3.) How to relax yourself before and during approach lowering your levels of anxiety<br /><br />4.) How to find out if shes available (and meets your goals ie. for the night - I will speak about SNL examples only from this point)<br /><br />5.) What she needs in order to get out from club and go to your house with you without losing her face (some grasp of female psychology and group psychology)<br /><br />6.) What to say (or rather what not to say) during that time and how to keep her horny till she arrives at your bed.<br /><br />7.) How to handle situations after sex to your advantage (ie. keeping her as a fuckbuddy)<br /><br />This game I believe is real, and there is a lot info unique to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-39424237993892089682013-04-07T09:08:23.567-07:002013-04-07T09:08:23.567-07:00I will cause some controversy here, but I think it...I will cause some controversy here, but I think it is possible to create short living emotion of sexual attraction in women through calculated baheviour that is not representative of real reproductional value. Sexual deception is as old as sex, and tactics of deception and couter-deception are evolving constantly also in our species in present day (ie. gamers and anti gamers) thus fakery is present, it must work sometimes and it will be. Lets think about it for a second - everyone of us knows instinctively that our brain is our peacocks tale just as bright as our body is. When you see hot women you unconsciously not only groom yourself and pose to look better but also you are trying to be witty, funny and charming. Geoffrey Miller sheds a light on those common intuintions about what is attractive and says in "The Mating Mind" this is because behaviour is much more telling about our real (evolutionary) fittness level than our bodies are because - in comparison - much more genes are involved in creating the most complex thing we know in entire in universe (brain) thus checking out products of a brain you can better test "genetic material" of its owner so to speak. But that opens door for deception through behaviour which is also part of matting intelligence definitions (look: Glenn Geher paper "Mating Intelligence: Sex, Relationships, and the Mind's Reproductive System"). This leads to PUAs obsession about voice tone, rythm vocabulary, being witty, funny or being able to tell stories in captivating manner. All those things - as evolution 'wants it" - should be done in person and in real time performances. PUAs through rehersals are trying to cheat the system by performing "as if", however rarely can hold the act under the pressureand it takes a lot of time to master(bare in mind that in short term matting, content of words matters much less than performance because it is easy to lie - not that easy to be witty). PUAs also try to show off some kind of unique perfomance skills while being "in the field"(hence magic tricks short circuting dummies)[For more info about performance of artistic and related skills in relation to sexual selection check out Denis Dutton - The Art Instinct.] Heck, even smooth "KINO" may be sign of preselection/expirience and power of mind - sexual prowess is fitness indicator in itself according to Geoffrey Miller, and knowing how to turn girl on is just as much matter of intelligence as it is matter of having decent body.<br /><br />Saying all that I must defend myself right now - I am not some PUA shill, and I am against such practices since there are more effective and ethical ways to go about it for most guys (you Alek often talk about those), and - what is equaly important - most of what PUA offers is in 95% cases untested and fake advice often being sold for big buck to the lost men. Those 5% of working techniques(I got that number out of ass but it is probably close to that judging by sucess of guys who devoted life to do this) is so counterproductive and time wasting (due to strong counter-deception unconscious responses from women and time needed to master them) that you would be silly to take them as a "magic pills" just to get that 1 on a 100 more (which will leave pissed off as soon as you become yourself again).<br /><br />This does not mean I say that people should stop working on being social and growing balls in order to have sex. I say that trying to pua-game unintrested women with belief of attracting them consistently is plain stupid judging from effort to result ratio - there is enough hot leads to get female company without fakery.<br /><br /><br />PS<br /><br />I like your posts Alek, but don't be such a douche to people, having different opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-34490460046043099412013-04-07T09:08:07.749-07:002013-04-07T09:08:07.749-07:00English in not my native language so the last time...English in not my native language so the last time I passed on writing long elaborates (from my cell phone) about diets and pick-up but I guess I need to do so this time 'cause you're wrong. <br /><br />This sentence:<br /><br />"WHAT I AM saying is that the number of pounds you lose is mathematically determined by the number of calories in deficit you are, regardless of where the calories come from.<br /><br />In other words, if you lose more on one diet than another, it's simply because it better supresses appetite for YOU, not because it has some magical "fat-burning" abilities."<br /><br />...is only partialy true because you messed up few things. Truth: appetite supressing abilities of some fad diets; False: "In other words, if you lose more on one diet than another, it's simply because it better supresses appetite for YOU, not because it has some magical "fat-burning" abilities."<br /><br />Why this is not true? Because source of calories from food (and we are talking about diets) is directly corelated with fat losing effect, cause you can alter your stress hormone levels through food and set metabolism to higher production of ie. testosterone, igf-1, gh, dhea and create higher insuline sensivity which alows body to use stored fat as a source of energy and more effectively use carbs from food. For example proteins are not just filler, because 1.) They are difficult for body to digest thus body must up its metabolism 2.) High amino acid profile of this diet is corelated to hormonal response setting your body to "I am safe" mode, which help rebuilding muscles which in turn burn more fat. You can also add to your diet other igredients that are boosting metabolism through other means i.e. garlic lowering antibodies present in inflamatory states thus lowering "stress" response and again allowing body to use calories from food and stored fat more effectively. There is plenty of such examples. You want proof? You have lots of studies on ergo-log site, and that site is legit. <br /><br />And the general problem is not me not being able to understand what I read, but maybe you not being able to understand what you wrote yourself. This statement: <br /><br />"number of pounds you lose is mathematically determined by the number of calories in deficit you are, regardless of where the calories come from" <br /><br />is not at all equal to:<br /><br />"In other words, if you lose more on one diet than another, it's simply because it better supresses appetite for YOU, not because it has some magical "fat-burning" abilities."<br /><br />because as you pointed out it is "determined by the number of calories in deficit you are, regardless of where the calories come from", and this does not mean "regardles of source of calories from food". I hope this is clear now and you stop propagating misinformation for sake of having a good analogy for PUA scam. If it is not clear I will explain this in more detail.<br /><br />You are also wrong about propper understanding of this following statement:<br /><br />"A DISCIPLINE is defined by how it DIFFERS FROM other disciplines NOT BY what it has in COMMON WITH THEM."<br /><br />Have you ever heard about syntetic scientific disciplines? You should because sociobiology of human species is exacly that (E.O. Wilson - father of sociobiology - says that evolutionary psychology is just different name for it cause of bad reception of those ideas in 70's and 80's. This discipline is using results from biology, sociology, ethology, anthropology, zoology, archaeology, population genetics, behavioral ecology to find out about human social and interpersonal behavior and it is a separate but syntetic discipline) and you have plenty studies from it on your seductionmyth site. <br /><br />Thus pick-up propagated by PUA which is also drawing form other disciplines in order to find answers on "how to get more sex" is also syntetic dyscipline differing from others by its objective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-85260544999026135872013-04-06T11:20:19.287-07:002013-04-06T11:20:19.287-07:00John, he might have overstated the point, but the ...John, he might have overstated the point, but the scientific evidence is that men only choose from a pool of women who have chosen them. <br /><br />Make sense? In other words, you can pick from the women who have chosen you... But it doesn't work the other way around. A woman doesn't pick from the men who have chosen her. She chooses men, and then goes with whichever one of those men acts first on her interest. <br /><br />It's kind of a subtle but important point. Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-13665661302833512832013-04-06T11:04:13.500-07:002013-04-06T11:04:13.500-07:00"Mate selection depends ENTIRELY on the woman..."Mate selection depends ENTIRELY on the woman.."<br /><br />Wow, "entirely". Could have sworn yesterday I turned down that ugly girl who was talking to me. But since I have NO input on who I mate with, I guess I was wrong. Good to know that ANY girl who wants me can have me, since mate selection is ENTIRELY dependent on the woman.<br /><br />Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-11347062526266547422013-04-06T10:40:17.942-07:002013-04-06T10:40:17.942-07:00@Anonymous
You SERIOUSLY lack reading skills beca...@Anonymous<br /><br /><b>You SERIOUSLY lack reading skills</b> because FOR example, you said you DISAGREE with me, and then proceeded to say the EXACT SAME thing I say, which shows either stupidity or lack of reading ability.<br /><br /><i>"Sometimes they do work because they make low carb intake less tiring. This is hardly a placebo effect in high protein/complex carb diets. They are fast, you feel full, you loose fat."</i><br /><br />DUDE THAT IS what I'm saying. Do you GET IT?<br /><br />I use the high-protein/complex-carb diet myself as I've found it to be superior for my own needs. OF COURSE one diet has advantages over another OF COURSE.<br /><br />HOWEVER, you COMPLETELY misread what I WAS saying. WHAT I AM saying is that <b>the number of pounds you lose is mathematically determined by the number of calories in deficit you are, regardless of where the calories come from</b>.<br /><br />In other words, if you lose more on one diet than another, it's simply because it better supresses appetite for YOU, not because it has some magical "fat-burning" abilities.<br /><br />DO YOU GET MY SUBTLE POINT NOW? Do I need to explain s-l-o-w-e-r?<br /><br /><b>Same thing with mating and escalation</b><br /><br /><b>Escalation is to mating what caloric deficit is to weightloss</b><br /><br />--> If you get MORE lays with one "game" method than another, it's SIMPLY because that method made you more confident about performing more escalations (whether you realize it or not conciously)<br /><br />-----> or alternatively as some studies suggest, you subconciously learn to better predict which "targets" are more likely to result in a successful outcome. So it's your "target selection" that becomes subconsciously better over time. You become better drawn to the types of women who are likely to be attracted to you. So that's also a factor in increased success ratio, but NOT any fictional ability to "change" or "create" attraction as game would sell you.<br /><br />--> Just like when if you lose more weight on one diet than another, it's simply because it caused you to eat less calories overall (whether you realize it or not conciously).<br /><br />AnonyShill... YOU BLURT OUT THE FOLLOWING:<br /><i>"Average joe wants to know how to find intrested girls, how to consistently brak the ice, how to relax himself and be sharp in those kind of situations, how to not run out of things to say, how to escalate and arouse women.This knowledge is what game is."</i><br /><br />A DISCIPLINE is defined by how it DIFFERS FROM other disciplines NOT BY what it has in COMMON WITH THEM.<br /><br />IF... (for example) both gamers and anti-gamers tell you to join a gym, then "going to the gym" can NOT be a defining criteria of game.<br /><br />Do<br />You<br />Understand?<br /><br />Is this point too subtle for your subtlety-challenged brain to comprehend? Do you get that GAME CAN ONLY claim to be those things that are its <b>UNIQUE defining characteristics</b>? Do I need to explain this point even s--l--o--w--e--r for you to GET IT?<br /><br />Reading signs of interest, knowing how to make sexual moves (and all those things you list) are TAUGHT by anti-gamers, mainstream dating coaches, feminists, anti-feminists, atheists, religious zealots etc etc, SO THEY CAN NOT (by definition) be the defining characteristics of game. DO YOU GET IT!?!?!?!?!?<br /><br />Game is DEFINED by what it has as UNIQUE claims. And the UNIQUE claim of game is that you can "CREATE" attraction where none existed before by using all these hundreds of elaborate interaction factors. THIS IS what we're warning guys against.<br /><br />And no, game is not taking a shower, joining a gym, and reading signs of interest. Stop trying to obfuscate the SCAM that is game by pointing to the little bits of sanity and common sense that can be found buried in some of their books. YOU KNOW full well this is NOT what makes, defines or sells game to its victims and prey.Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-20057772742795127282013-04-06T01:46:49.534-07:002013-04-06T01:46:49.534-07:00Roosh on TV??? Featured in an talkshow event? (alb...Roosh on TV??? Featured in an talkshow event? (albeit on Ukrainian TV)<br />This is absolutely hilarious! Absolutely fuckin' hilarious! ;)))Marco_Polonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-63827862235186820632013-04-06T01:23:14.496-07:002013-04-06T01:23:14.496-07:00@ Alek & Sleazy: Yes, I was being slightly sa...@ Alek & Sleazy: Yes, I was being slightly sarcastic and of course pointing out that April's fool post was done cum grano salis. Alek I do share your views and analysis on this (and on much more) to the detail. Thanks for your vitriolic sense of clarity!<br /><br />@ Anonymous: Yes, John Q. Public wants to know about all those aspects in detail. And there are a few steps that he can actually take to improve himself in those fundamental areas. But the point still is and remains: game DOES NOT EXIST. Because mate selection conciously or subconciously depends entirely on the woman, he can never be sure to get that special girl. But he can improve his statistic ration of girls that will find him hot, so that he can successfully hit on them and escalate until the rituals of sexual merging take place. ;)Marco_Polonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-31395892879738371032013-04-06T01:14:13.891-07:002013-04-06T01:14:13.891-07:00Part III will come later today.Part III will come later today.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-14618743180819753972013-04-06T00:14:32.193-07:002013-04-06T00:14:32.193-07:006-4-1213.The food supply is low , I am dehydrated ...6-4-1213.The food supply is low , I am dehydrated and weakened. It´s been three weeks since the last manosphere post. Aaron promised to make a third , so I am not giving up hope...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-91212530473202386052013-04-05T04:01:50.000-07:002013-04-05T04:01:50.000-07:00http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/my-time-...http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/my-time-inside-the-housing-bubble/<br /><br />More roissy....<br /><br />Check this out , re his high status job<br /><br /><br />A few years ago I briefly toyed with the idea of getting a second job on the side for some quick and easy supplemental bling. Acting on a tip from a friend, I walked into the office of a mortgage broker in northern Virginia to begin my second life as an intermediary taking advantage of information bottlenecks and client ignorance.<br /><br />[YSV: What kind of guy who makes much dinero in his super important high status job would consider the position of a real estate agent which can be done by high school graduates?And also his utter naivete in assuming that it would be "easy" money]<br /><br />The president mob boss of the small company was a short Vietnamese man with manic energy, a giant gold watch, and a quick tongue. I mentioned my referral and, after sizing me up, he told me there would be an all-hands meeting in a half hour and I was invited to sit in and see if this business appealed to me.<br /><br />I scanned the office. Lots of empy cubicles with flickering monitors full of excel spreadsheets being operated by invisible employees. Along the wall were closed door offices with nameplates designating various positions – VP this, VP that, CFO (!), Executive manager. Really? I popped my head into one office and another South Asian greeted me. We bantered a bit then he showed me his trophies and certificates for excellence in mortgage brokering. A huge photo of him sitting in his Ferrari hung prominently behind his desk. He noticed me checking it out and said it took him only three years to build his client list to reach the point he could buy that beauty — all it required was a solid work ethic. He was wearing a Rolex.<br /><br />[Garishness and tastelessness, thy name is noveau riche. Having worked in sales, I know for a fact that most of the succesful guys in there for some reason dress like a hobo who just the lottery like this individual described above. A gold rolex?A ferrari? The dealers saw him coming a mile away]<br /><br />[In his defense, he quit after 3 weeks but then it was because he felt it was a scam not so much due to the nature of the business but his issue was with the TACTICS.]<br /><br />[I noticed in the comments claims that salesguys always get laid a whole lot- my impressions are based on anecdotal evidence but it is not negligible as I worked with and met too many salesmen- good salesmen obviously do well with clients but I dont never really saw most of them dating particularly attractive women.For one thing, many of these guys were not really good looking(especially in telesales which I dealt with) but even the good looking guys were rather slimy in the way but made many women feel really uncomfortable at best and creeped out at worst.]<br /><br />[Also in the comments are the usual tall tales about lonely horny housewives. While I dont doubt that such scenarios do occur, they are rarities and extreme exceptions to the rule, bravado dictates that numbers of such encounters as well as the attractiveness of the women in question be exagerrated]<br />ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-16194351742181845392013-04-04T08:47:35.630-07:002013-04-04T08:47:35.630-07:00I'm looking forward to your files. Thanks a lo...I'm looking forward to your files. Thanks a lot!Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-17257274079515531652013-04-04T05:56:04.205-07:002013-04-04T05:56:04.205-07:00Hey Sleaz ,
It´s Tommy. I´m doing some research on...Hey Sleaz ,<br />It´s Tommy. I´m doing some research on Roissy for you. 3 Pages of word files already. The state of affairs is that he is really fucked up psychologically.<br />Like, really really fucked up in his worldview, thinking , behaviour not in the sense of pua-fucked up. A psychology studend could write an deep article on this and he would be crushed. All his blogging career.<br />I´m looking forward to finish this in a month , since I can only spend a couple of hours in a week on this bastard. Spare your time checking his blog out AAron , you would appreaciate what I have for you.<br />Imagine what effect your article on him would have, a brickshitting-storm in the manosphere (not to mention the traffic).<br />BULLSHIT WILL DIE!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-5334814465421077092013-04-03T12:28:29.604-07:002013-04-03T12:28:29.604-07:00Alek, 1.) I must disagree with fad diets. Sometime...Alek, 1.) I must disagree with fad diets. Sometimes they do work because they make low carb intake less tiring. This is hardly a placebo effect in high protein/complex carb diets. They are fast, you feel full, you loose fat. 2.) Everybody knows that getting any and every hot girl is just a fantasy. What everyone wants to know is how to get as many as they can without relying on luck, but on skill. Average joe wants to know how to find intrested girls, how to consistently brak the ice, how to relax himself and be sharp in those kind of situations, how to not run out of things to say, how to escalate and arouse women.This knowledge is what game is and it makes huge difference between getting by accident that 1 of 100 from the pool of intrested girls and getting 700% more on them consistently. Denying the fact that learning social skills in context of courtship is a waste of time is just throwing out babies with the bath water for sake of arguing with retards about things that nobody takes seriously anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-21696929899986183402013-04-03T11:23:51.149-07:002013-04-03T11:23:51.149-07:00Speaking of Mystery, who in the mainstream still r...Speaking of Mystery, who in the mainstream still remembers him? He has got his 15 minutes of fame, and Roosh may get his. However, I highly doubt he'll go beyond that.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-8473765239586868292013-04-03T09:42:58.093-07:002013-04-03T09:42:58.093-07:00It looks Roosh is going mainstream Sleazy, he has ...It looks Roosh is going mainstream Sleazy, he has been on tv more then ever. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years he will get a show and even surpass Mystery<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2INybBpXkM<br /><br />^^Roosh is blowing up, at least he shows his face unlike that coward HeartiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-52463277912028279142013-04-03T05:47:25.061-07:002013-04-03T05:47:25.061-07:00Another way to explain is that it's exactly li...<b>Another way to explain is that it's exactly like weightloss and calories.</b> ("game" methods are just like fad diets)<br /><br />- The exact same false-positives, self-deception and cognitive biases exist in game as in weightloss vs. fad diets<br /><br />- For example people will swear they had "tried eating less", but it "didn't work", but if you actually test these subjects you will find that they're EATING MORE than they think they are, or only ate less for a week, then gave up (while tricking themselves into believing that week was a few months).<br /><br />- Other people will swear the had tried "every diet" until they stumbled onto a magic diet that makes them lose weight "despite eating more", but IF you study and test these subjects you find out they're DELUDED and self-deceptive (they actually eat LESS calories, they just don't know it).<br /><br /><br />-> WHEN a game method causes more lays (and that's very rarely) it works by tricking the subject into performing more escalations and falsely attributing the success to one of the 323 filler/placebo/fluff changes<br /><br />-> WHEN a fad-diet causes weightloss (and that's very rarely) it does so by tricking the subject into eating less calories and falsely attributing the success to one of the 323 filler/placebo/fluff changes<br /><br />Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-26156018873062559332013-04-03T03:45:03.509-07:002013-04-03T03:45:03.509-07:00I think Marco-Polo is being sarcastic. I get that ...I think Marco-Polo is being sarcastic. I get that the idea now is that we over here are "white knights" who worry about "protecting women from creepy men".<br /><br />I think that's their latest cognitive distortion, but I might be wrong, I don't have time to read game-believer stuff.<br /><br /><i>(For the record, anti-gamers are passionate about trying to rescue and protect men, not women, by saving you time, energy, effort and life-vitality not wasted on a placebo scam)</i><br /><br /><b>Look at this naive fella:</b><br /><br /><i>"And how come Krauser PUA started off with the ability to walk up to girls and chat them up, yet didn’t get anywhere near banging any for months, and yet can now get a SDL or next day bang nearly every time he goes out hitting on women in the street?"</i><br /><br />For the same reason I made thousands of approaches that got nowhere myself when I was a newbie community dude, it's called self-deception.<br /><br />I managed to do thousands of approaches where (because of game brainwashing) I was focusing on and thinking about 273921 different factors EXCEPT the ONE that makes the difference, it's called escalation. But I somehow blanked it out of my mind, and I had a "recollection" of "doing thousands of approaches that led nowhere despite me doing everything I could" ---> Yeah, but I was focusing on 23423 "game" factors, and not on ACTUALLY making a MOVE.<br /><br />In other words, if Krauser made a 1000 approaches without getting a phone number it's BECAUSE HE DIDNT ASK FOR IT.<br /><br />If Krauser went on a 100 dates that didn't end in sex, ITS BECAUSE HE NEVER MADE A MOVE for sex.<br /><br />This is the most damaging part of game. You're so focused on overanalyzing and overthinking every action, word you/her say, you forget that a) it's a numbers game b) if you simply make the move the same 7%* will end up with you horizontal... SIMPLE.<br /><br />That's how "game progression works". Game is nothing but hyper-convoluted way to mask the pain of rejection. If it doesn't work out, it was that you didn't use the proper "game" rather than admitting she doesn't like YOU. But overtime through sheer persistance and banging your head on the wall, eventually you DO make more and more and more moves and more consistently, but instead of crediting your ESCALATION for the increased number of lays, you credit "the game".<br /><br /><b>Here's the point, this is why I always SPECIFICALLY say and make sure to put in brackets (provided 100%) escalation. Game can be shown not to exist because nobody can get more lays on a per-escalation basis. GLL demonstrated this well where he simply escalated hundreds of chicks in a very "beta" way, but got the same results as Krauser. As long as you ASK (no matter how you do the asking) the same women will say yes. So fucking stop studying hyper-convoluted complex ways of asking, and just learn to ask more often, simple.</b><br /><br /><br />*-Or whatever the realistic percentage is for your looks & age vs that of the women you're targetting...<br /><br />Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-22079366944205305932013-04-03T02:42:46.965-07:002013-04-03T02:42:46.965-07:00Nice April fools post. Thanks for pointing this ou...Nice April fools post. Thanks for pointing this out!Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-51135738996782256812013-04-01T12:19:09.224-07:002013-04-01T12:19:09.224-07:00Alex & Sleazy, check this out: there are even ...Alex & Sleazy, check this out: there are even guys out there performing "Hopeless Game" (sic !) and offering to teach it to other credulous unfortunates! How pathetic and miserable! Unattractive and utterly unsocial men molesting women in socially "cold" situations… unbelieveable!<br /><br />http://theantifeminist.com/schopenbecq-pua-a-new-direction-for-the-antifeminist-com/Marco_Polonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-50550341277317402782013-03-31T23:29:33.195-07:002013-03-31T23:29:33.195-07:00Thanks for the clarification Jack. That actually m...Thanks for the clarification Jack. That actually makes a ton of sense. And I wasn't going to make any of the attacks you predicted.<br /><br />I never criticize preferences (matter of taste), only when people are lying to self/others. Alek Novyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727239708216696902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-55019511032575450502013-03-30T13:30:22.244-07:002013-03-30T13:30:22.244-07:00I can see how it looks like that from your perspec...I can see how it looks like that from your perspective. No need to get defensive, we're all just having a fun conversation.<br /><br />You're right, my last response was about different methods for screening girls, not necessarily for the goal of screening only "if a chick wants to bang". I apologize if I offended you by talking about "screening women" vs. "screening women for banging only." Perhaps I did miss part of the conversation, as you said.<br /><br />If I'm actively looking for quick sex then my screen will be inviting them home (or to the sex location) with me within the first 10 seconds to 10 minutes. (This of course assumes that I have sex logistics in place - my house, a bathroom, a secluded hallway, a car, a parking lot, a stairwell, etc.)<br /><br />I've found that being quite direct (verbally) has worked quite efficiently as a screen for me when I'm looking for quick sex. Again, no "kino". Although I'm not looking for quick sex or sex-only relationships much these days so I tend not to do that anymore, (although sometimes it falls into your lap when you talk to enough women). <br /><br />It crossed my mind that you might judge the efficiency of screens differently than I do so I'll give you my criteria:<br /><br />> I judge efficiency (in terms of "screening if a chick wants to bang") by the ratio of time-invested to lays. <br /><br />I understand that some guys judge efficiency in terms of number of women talked to to lays. That's fair. But for me it's irrelevant. I would much rather approach 30 attractive women in one hour and get laid vs. approach 2 attractive women in 2 hours and get laid. To each his own.<br /><br />With regards to phone numbers that don't go anywhere -> Yes, I have a number more "wasted" phone numbers from women who don't go anywhere. Fortunately, it takes a similarly short amount of time to get numbers from girls who are DTF as well as girls who are completely uninterested. The time-investment is minimal and if I'm talking to a lot of women who I find attractive, the ones who are DTF make it clear fairly right off the bat.<br /><br />If sex is my only goal with a woman and I didn't invite her to have sex when I first met her (read: I got her phone number instead) then I'll call her and either invite her to my house, explicitly for sex, or invite her for coffee or a drink. At coffee or drinks, I'll then invite her back to my place.<br /><br />If sex is my only goal, the maximum amount of time I will spend with a woman before I've hit the bottom-line ("does she want to have sex") is 30 minutes to an hour MAX. Although, usually it is about 10 minutes or less. It varies depending on the circumstances. <br /><br />Keep in mind I'm not saying this method is best for everyone. There are a million different ways to get lots of sex. Guys gotta find what works best *for them*. I've known guys who use aggressive "kino" or a variety of other screens quite efficiently. It's not better or worse than what I do, just different. <br /><br />By the way, I'm also aware that you could attack what I've typed from a number of angles like "Well, that won't work if you are at a small party with friends" or "That won't work if you don't approach a lot of girls" or "That way gets you rejected more than XYZ" or "That won't work for guys who are less-experienced or [insert something else]". You're right, my screens are not the all-encompassing theory of everything with regards to getting laid. I'm simply sharing my experiences, not telling anyone else what to do. I urge guys to test anything they read using their own experience, goals, personality and values as a compass before they believe if it is "good" for them or not.<br /><br />-JackJackhttp://date-masters.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-52795622616442692052013-03-30T02:40:18.466-07:002013-03-30T02:40:18.466-07:00Wow, thats just sad. Does getting a phone number m...Wow, thats just sad. Does getting a phone number mean anything anymore?<br />Before the advent of mass communication technology, it was much harder to get a girls phone number as it due to the absence of caller ids, women living and sharing landlines with roommates/parents etc, they would screen the men who they would give numbers to very carefully.<br /><br />I support a lot of things about the MRA particularly the cruelty meted out to fathers in the divorce industrial complex and the child abuse that constitute sons being raised by single mother and female teachers who ban recess,toy guns and medicate them.<br />However there are too many in there who are into "freedom porn" and abdication from any responsibility whatsoever ie overgrown children.<br />It is a real danger they would wreck the movement the same way Occupy Wall Street(whose agitations of the corporate-political nexus were sound) got quickly hijacked by leftist anarchists and nihilists.ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-7811991824061063882013-03-30T02:32:39.677-07:002013-03-30T02:32:39.677-07:00Sorry, Im late to this. I think exposing a blogger...Sorry, Im late to this. I think exposing a blogger's true identity is completely out of line and immoral( unless he is advocating or promoting violence against a specific individual or group). He maybe a loathsome trash talking hypocrite but that is not a crime.<br />Going after the person and exposing him is a sort of ad hominem attack , its the type of thing that women are especially prone to do.<br />I remember a vicious and exhausting back and forth with a female anti Semitic,anti American, Iraqi Arab supremacist blogger(she thought the Arabs were the bees knees and all other nations were shit) and when I had verbally and ideologically pounded the living crap out of her, she threatened to release my (mockingly misogynist and antiArab) emails to my contacts(back then in hotmail, your messenger contacts were available for others to see). I called her bluff and told her to do as she pleased.She resigned in defeat and said I would end up in her spam folder.<br />The same thought process is in play with Lady Raine et al. Say you want about Roissy, he skewers feminists like no one else(pretty much the only reason I read him) and LR when unable to counter his points did the less than honorable thing and exposed him.<br />Again I loathe Roissy but I cant get behind this type of 'outing'. In this context, whether he works for the government or a high paying corporate job is of no importance.ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.com