tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post3937542876328428011..comments2023-05-17T08:14:10.789-07:00Comments on Men, Women, and Society: The Open Thread: July 2016Aaron Sleazyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-45455463282467100062016-08-04T11:39:06.516-07:002016-08-04T11:39:06.516-07:00diet isnt just about fat-loss.
eating less calorie...diet isnt just about fat-loss.<br />eating less calories is a good damn step, especially cutting "harmful,useless" ones. follow this and your diet will get cleaner with less waste. LazyLifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17166776768659209547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-37217502394314173472016-08-02T21:22:55.384-07:002016-08-02T21:22:55.384-07:00@AnonymousAugust 1, 2016 at 2:06 AM
I hope as wel...@AnonymousAugust 1, 2016 at 2:06 AM<br /><br />I hope as well. I don't know, I don't ask them how often they get laid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-19596870836554394992016-08-01T02:06:20.281-07:002016-08-01T02:06:20.281-07:00@AnonymousJuly 31, 2016 at 9:11 AM
I hope those b...@AnonymousJuly 31, 2016 at 9:11 AM<br /><br />I hope those betas are at least getting some physical/sexual benefit out of all this. This kind of arrangement is actually more expensive than seeing multiple escorts/prostitutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-37122737543393858002016-07-31T09:11:09.028-07:002016-07-31T09:11:09.028-07:00Forgot to mention, talk of being taken advantage o...Forgot to mention, talk of being taken advantage of aside, most of the people in these rels do seem happy. With some occasional drama of course. But that happens in a lot of rels. Don't think they have more or less drama than other rels I have seen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-83432293556493679842016-07-31T09:00:02.971-07:002016-07-31T09:00:02.971-07:00In one case I agree, the guy is paying for her bil...In one case I agree, the guy is paying for her bills. (While he also has girlfriends on the side btw, for which he also pays).<br /><br />Other is more that I find the guy low status, but apparently he ticks some liberal/progressive thought leader checkbox for a few girls.<br /><br />Lets see, these are a 3+ year rel, and a 10+ rel. And some of the more alpha dudes with open rels are indeed like you say, having women that are a bit more frustrated, or only in the first year of a rel and not that open. (I think they both agree on who two open up on).<br /><br />So yeah, timeframes running from early to long term relationships. My social circle is weird. But I have certainly also seen beta's being taken for a ride. Quite a lot. "we are in a relationship" "ow, yeah we never discussed what the relationship means, and what I'm not allowed to do. So I can make out with other people"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-64689842675411914682016-07-30T21:08:28.147-07:002016-07-30T21:08:28.147-07:00Reading further in it. Damn what a load of shit. O...Reading further in it. Damn what a load of shit. Of course he has brain damage that causes the sex addiction, it is caused by his mom being a narcissist (gosh, wasn't that popular a few years ago in the manosphere), of ofcourse his girlfriend has also have parental problems.<br /><br />And just as laughable as when roosh said in his books that he got a success rate of 1 in 3 women. Is the constant barrage of women strauss doesn't know who keep sending him emails and text messages with nude pics and suggestions that he'd fuck them.<br /><br />And it is so clearly written towards the nerdy part of the pua/manosphere people. To blue pill them again so to say. It even has a quote from terry pratchet in it.<br /><br />I'm constantly reminded of the 'secret king' gamma thing voxday is so fond off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-26719426409886965532016-07-30T13:23:39.708-07:002016-07-30T13:23:39.708-07:00He seems like an interesting person, but I haven&#...He seems like an interesting person, but I haven't spent any time studying his work.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-22727168894936324652016-07-30T13:22:50.213-07:002016-07-30T13:22:50.213-07:00Which time frame are we talking about? You can cer...Which time frame are we talking about? You can certainly see several women in parallel, but eventually it will frustrate them that they are unable to tie you down.<br /><br />Low status guys having an open relationships with high status women? Sounds like betas who are taken for a ride to me.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-51600514799908486912016-07-30T12:26:37.846-07:002016-07-30T12:26:37.846-07:00Thanks for those links. The first video was painfu...Thanks for those links. The first video was painful to watch, not just for the ending. In general, giving expensive gifts is complete beta behavior, apart from the fact that it is fiscally highly irresponsible behavior. Filming yourself like that guy did it is a fantastic way to show the world what a putz you are. He'll have great fun with that video in a few years as at least one of the following invariably happen, based on the dynamics shown in the video:<br />- she'll cut off sex/physical affection even more<br />- she'll get fat (seems slightly overweight already)<br />- she'll get bitchier (bitchy already)<br />- she'll leave him<br /><br />I just had a brief loo at the other post. It seems to be entertaining, so I put it on my to-read list.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-77412435268209255772016-07-30T05:49:09.592-07:002016-07-30T05:49:09.592-07:00Hey Aaron,I'd like your thoughts on this:
http...Hey Aaron,I'd like your thoughts on this:<br />https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-35713.html<br /><br />The video disgusts me,and the most telling part of it is at 5:30 when the guy tries to go for the kiss and chick gives him the cheek and a hug(although she did give him a peck on the lips immediately after,probably a pity kiss)<br /><br />Of course,maybe we're making assumptions here. its possible that they really are "getting it on" in private (or so the uploader claims. I still think his actions are inherently beta,especially considering the woman's reactions.)<br /><br />Lastly,here's another story. I think you'll find it interesting:<br />https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-44321.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-75288476166189990622016-07-28T05:51:43.446-07:002016-07-28T05:51:43.446-07:00I know of a few open relationships where the girls...I know of a few open relationships where the girls don't have low self esteem. (In some I even think the dude has LSE, he can react pretty butthurt pretty easily).<br /><br />And the dudes are not even that high status (nor the girls that low). So yeah, it depends. (I know quite a lot of poly people, most of them seem to date equal status people, with a few guy exceptions (those get a lot more girls obv)).Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-78091770571043286632016-07-28T02:07:18.404-07:002016-07-28T02:07:18.404-07:00Whats your opinion on Sam Harris (if you have any)...Whats your opinion on Sam Harris (if you have any)? Personally, I have a hard time disagreeing with him on any topic (except maybe his views on morality, but I didn't think that through enough to be honest).Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13837886359880454752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-87539614736948138792016-07-27T17:20:46.274-07:002016-07-27T17:20:46.274-07:00Anybody reading neal strauss his new book about &#...Anybody reading neal strauss his new book about 'the truth' doing a 180 about his whole game thing.<br /><br />I just started but damn, it is filled all the socially acceptable bs. Poly women who are not crazy don't exist. The only way to a good relationship is no lying ever. Going to escorts dehumanizes them. Etc.<br /><br />Once again, I get the feeling which I get a lot when reading stuff written by Americans. Americans can't do something normal. It is filled with all kinds of extremes. He cheats on his gf, and feels like shit. So... he checks himself into a sex addiction clinic. Where they put him on suicide watch.<br /><br />The dude is such a drama queen, and I doubt most of it has even really happened. (Not because crazy shit doesn't happen btw, but I don't really trust Strauss).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-13913198327916121862016-07-27T11:03:17.391-07:002016-07-27T11:03:17.391-07:00Open relationships only work if at least one of th...Open relationships only work if at least one of the girls has very low self esteem. Feel free to provide evidence to the contrary. Hint: women are fiercely competitive with each other; sharing a guy would be something they may agree on if you're extremely high status in comparison to her. So, you better be George Clooney, or you are a regular Joe and you don't mind dating women far beneath you.<br /><br />I'm not sure how successful he is. Keep in mind that he has the tendency to massive exaggerate his achievements. He probably makes the equivalent of a decent professional salary, which is a decent achievement, no doubt. I read or at least skimmed most of those books. Winning Through Intimidation is good. The title may be off-putting as it appeals to wannabe-Machiavellists, but there is some good stuff in there (and a lot of fluff).Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-71672727320745285392016-07-27T00:52:27.643-07:002016-07-27T00:52:27.643-07:00just playing devil's advocate here but what do...just playing devil's advocate here but what do you think of blackdragon's open relationship approach? He may very well have a point,humans(both men and women)sexually desire more than one person and often lose attraction to their mates in the long term,which is why cheating is such a rampant problem. BD wants to minimize drama in his life so this is the approach he follows.<br /><br />BTW,although BD isn't much of a seducer,he is undoubtedly financially successful,what do you think of his book recommendations here:<br /><br />http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2014/02/09/18-useful-18-books-ever-read/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-18120612721249182902016-07-26T00:15:14.111-07:002016-07-26T00:15:14.111-07:00First, I don't know how anyone can take Colt W...First, I don't know how anyone can take Colt Williams seriously when he actually recommends Tyler from RSD: http://www.girlschase.com/content/next-level-seduction-pt-1-showing-r-selection<br /><br />The guy is also charging almost $100 for his Tinder advice (he suggests your first message to a girl be song lyrics. I don't even know where he thought that would be a good idea), when the guys on the board have already figured out that it really just comes down to how good you look in your pictures.<br /><br />Ricardus also advocates cold approaching 100 women on the street with his opener "Are you single?" <br /><br />I'm not saying you're wrong man, and if their advice helps you then more power to you, I'm just saying when there's so much bad advice surrounding the good advice, why even bother digging through it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-25619249334409066422016-07-24T07:34:34.870-07:002016-07-24T07:34:34.870-07:00As far as I know, this is indeed Roissy. Note that...As far as I know, this is indeed Roissy. Note that I don't know him in person. I think he is well above average in terms of looks. Considering that he works in DC, allegedly in a cushy six-figure job, it is safe to say that he is "gaming" himself out of getting laid.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-9454356495870085552016-07-23T10:04:37.031-07:002016-07-23T10:04:37.031-07:00Hi Alek,I know you and Aaron are in the business o...Hi Alek,I know you and Aaron are in the business of exposing PUA's,so I must ask,is this guy really Roissy/Heartiste?:<br />https://tcdh.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/roissy.jpg<br /><br />He...actually isn't bad looking at all. If its true that he barely ever gets laid,then that speaks volumes about "game." (or more specifically,street cold approaching)<br /><br />On the other hand,Roissy really seems to do an excellent job of exposing beta male behavior(read his "beta of the month/year contest" posts,here's a good example: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/beta-of-the-month-on-bended-knees-forever/)<br /><br />I'm really curious about this roissy character,because I used to frequently read his blog. There's definitely a lot of BS on it,but also some small gems of truth to be found there(mainly his take on marriage and his exposition of beta males)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-54787187975314813222016-07-21T10:35:26.879-07:002016-07-21T10:35:26.879-07:00There already is. It's called exercising. It&#...There already is. It's called exercising. It's all about energy intake vs energy expenditure. If your intake is too high, you'll gain weight. If you want to lose weight, you have to eat less than your body otherwise needs so that your fat depots will slowly get depleted.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-19614396499619390922016-07-21T03:27:01.245-07:002016-07-21T03:27:01.245-07:00Do you think there will come a time when the "...Do you think there will come a time when the "Perfect diet/fat loss pill" will ever be created? (since virtual reality is a possibility,this doesn't seem to be too far fetched,I think...)<br /><br />Most diet supplements today suck,and the ones that do work tend to be dangerous(hence why they became illegal. although this isn't primarily for fat loss,meth is one of the few drugs I know of that truly does work,but obviously its not worth the negative effects)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-52175545357038119192016-07-18T09:31:39.287-07:002016-07-18T09:31:39.287-07:00My experience from girlschase is that most of the ...My experience from girlschase is that most of the useful stuff I got came from articles from other writers not so much chase himself, but I just picked out articles that are relevant to me, unlike a lot of guys that get into PUA I don't read every single article on the site. There isn't a single writer on the site who I've read every single article, although Colt Williams, Ricardus, Hector Castillo and Darius Belajavas have some good articles (at least for me personally, also note I rarely had to go over the 10 free article monthly limit, and even if you do you can still read most of the article just missing the first paragraph or two because of logo in the way) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-13550747878758102832016-07-17T15:03:47.535-07:002016-07-17T15:03:47.535-07:00I think he is insecure and therefore needs to over...I think he is insecure and therefore needs to overcompensate. When he first showed up on mASF years ago he made an impression on impressionable losers, while others viewed him and his advice rather critical. But if you are a simp, then spamming chicks online is easier than real life pickup. Something that is now probably difficult to find online nowadays, considering that mASF has disappeared, is that his 'real' online game was exposed. In reality, he highlighted his economic success --- he more or less mentioned in every other post that he was making 100k a year and lives in house --- and specifically went after chicks who made less. On mASF, though, he left that part out.<br /><br />There was some other nonsense, too. Among others, I recall a post of his in which he claimed that the women he pulls online look better in real life than on pictures, which is a downright absurd statement, as anybody who has had more than a couple of dates from online game can confirm.<br /><br />There was also an incredible amount of naivety in some of his posts, particular with regards to politics and economics. For instance, one of his favorite recommendations was to move to Asia, which culminated in a statement that whatever job you have at home you'd have there as well, so there would be no issue at all (yeah, right).Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-61834992348144007952016-07-17T14:01:11.488-07:002016-07-17T14:01:11.488-07:00My advice is to stay away from Girlschase. Aaron p...My advice is to stay away from Girlschase. Aaron posts a lot of stories of guys from RSD trying to pull out of the PUA sphere because of them realizing that “game” was making their lives hell. For me it was Girlschase, not RSD.<br /><br />If you want a concrete example of a problem with them, one is the idea that game can outperform guys with good looks and "bad game." Another is their belief in NLP. <br /><br />At first glance, they seem to give good advice, mentioning that you need good fundamentals like looking good, living in a place where you can meet women, knowing it's a numbers game, etc. but they use that as more of a caveat than a hard guideline. They also cloud this good advice with tons of game tactics and social theories, as well as never being to able to make up their minds on whether or not being good looking or rich is the key to success or not.<br /><br />Not to mention, their authors like to say they don’t believe in the typical PUA advice, but they do. For example, some articles say that you can make up for your poor looks by being a good conversationalist and "giving her the feelings that she wants" in a conversation.<br /><br />Here is such an article: http://www.girlschase.com/content/sexuality-game-making-her-wet-words<br /><br />That same author has claimed that Ross Jeffries and Speed Seduction have information worth learning from, he mentions it in the comments of this article here: http://www.girlschase.com/content/sexuality-game-part-ii-word-wizardry<br /><br />Again, my advice is to stay away from them. If you want to get better with girls invest in a gym membership. And that’s coming from a guy that actually had good success with girls in school beforehand and continued to have some success because I was good looking enough despite following Girlschase's advice. What led me to their site in the first place anyways was a painful breakup and a want for a bit more consistent success with girls, not being bad with girls to begin with.<br /><br />Unfortunately, following their advice didn’t help with either reason. Instead of cold approaching a thousand times like they advise, you are much better off working out, working on skills that you actually like and want to do, and meeting people from that skill. You honestly can't go wrong that way.<br /><br />Even their own forum members with experience can't paint the idea of cold approaching as a good one: https://www.girlschase.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12090<br /><br />100 approaches, 3 dates, no lays? 11 months to get a lay from cold approach? It's absolutely mental. I can't believe what an idiot I was to believe in that crap.<br /><br />In fact, this was the article from Sleazy that started to snap me out of the same process that thread's author had: http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-cold-approaching-is-pretty-much.html<br /><br />My bad on the long reply to your question, but there isn't too much info on Girlschase on the blog so I thought to supply a bit more in case others tune in. Basically, the point is their advice will most likely just leave you over analyzing everything while cold approaching strangers on the street.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-47757497144831589062016-07-17T09:55:06.204-07:002016-07-17T09:55:06.204-07:00Anon,
it depends on the context. I've used all...Anon,<br />it depends on the context. I've used all of the following:<br />- pretending I don't speak her language, or only really broken English ("What you want? I'm sorry, I not understand.")<br />- pretend you didn't even hear her; works fine in a club, so you just happen to turn away as she approaches you<br />- go to the bathroom<br />- never ask any questions<br />- don't bask in the attention you're getting but instead just walk off again (example: chick loitering around the water cooler and trying to drum up a conversation every time you walk past)<br />- tell her you have a gf, but not like bitchy bitches do it ("How was your weekend?" "Fine. Was just chilling with my gf." vs. "I have a boyfriend!")<br />- be really obnoxious, e.g. say that you've fucked two chicks this week already and now just want to enjoy a relaxed evening at this bar<br />- be even more obnoxious, e.g. randomly mention your gf/chick you're banging, pull up your phone, go through your gallery and pick a pic of your girl, and say something like, "She's cute, isn't she?" Obviously, this only works if your girl is more attractive than the chic hitting on you. (I did this once when I had to deal with an obnoxious 5 or 6 who thought she was a ten, and just wouldn't leave me alone. She walked off with a shattered ego, which was exactly what she needed.)Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1830949294679547966.post-15330201649179254852016-07-17T09:32:28.893-07:002016-07-17T09:32:28.893-07:00Sonny seems to be a bit too much of a "bro&qu...Sonny seems to be a bit too much of a "bro" for me. I skimmed his site about a year ago, and stumbled about some rather absurd bro science, like the suggestion to wear a tooth protector when lifting, when the obvious issue is that you shouldn't clench your teeth in that situation. It's not the kind of site I actively follow, but there surely is some good advice in his writing.<br /><br />Chase wants to make a living online. Thus, he has to target a larger audience.Aaron Sleazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704230661761052919noreply@blogger.com