I was surprised that a thread calling out their faked Daygame.com video was not taken down. I was even more surprised of some of the reactions. The first one is hard to top, but as we'll see, PUA followers are a deluded crowd:
Did you seriously started stalking to find this? Did you seriously created an account just for this? I have not bought anything from Daygame.com but damn... You should maybe get a life. You can start by doing Daygame :) You have all the techniques in YouTube for free. I will not say anything about this topic, I think it's best to just let some people live in the matrix, while others proceed and try to live the life we wanted. We know Daygame works, no need to convince others, if the latter ones just prefer to live miserable for the rest of their lives.
Apparently the "matrix" is so powerful that some people disregard any kind of criticism. In a related context, I once read the statement that there are some people who, instead of believing what the see, see what they believe. Indeed, this kind of completely twisted perception of reality is evident here as well. That guy is so deluded that he believes in his idols even after they were exposed as charlatans.
But, wait, it gets even better! Look at this:
How many times have we stopped a girl who is a singer or actress. Often.
This means nothing.
These guys from PUA HATE which is now SLUT HATE are really creepy guys. They have the potential to go out and shoot women. The fact that they would tear down another man for approaching a girl or demonize a girl for wanting to date is truly bizarre. All of these guys should be locked up and evaluated.I don't even know what to say to this. That guy is either a shill for Daygame.com or, to put it mildly, fucking stupid. Actresses don't put on their portfolio when they were illegally videotaped by some PUA. That woman was paid for that.
Denial is seemingly the easier option, as yet another guy demonstrates.
If this is legit then it means that Tom or daygame.com have made a fraudulent video. But how much of a shit do I give? Zero.Some other guy:
The only experiences that truly matter to me are my own, that happen in my own reality. So if a video is less than truthful, my world isn't going to fall apart. I don't see that there's too much to get excited about here.
Yet another guy:
What if people showed you proof that your doctor isn't really a doctor?
Looks like some axes are being grinded here. Very disappointing.There just is no end:
What I find destructive here is Andy is indirectly fanning the flames by not deleting the thread or coming down on one side or another. The guy who posted is no doubt a PUA hate guy. Its not like a guy like this stops at Tom Torero alone, he is going to do the same thing to Andy or any other guy who is successful with women for that matter. Like I said before, they have mental problems.
In my opinion, it is a legit infield, she was an aspiring actress, she found out his name after and turned a negative into a positive for her career.
I think if anything we should all stick together on this.
Call me crazy for looking at the bigger picture.
The thing I find interesting here is the phenomenon that someone with a negative outlook on life will always assume that if someone else, a positive person, is having success, well, they must have cheated, there simply has to be a scam. Negative people can only process the world on these terms.
I don't know if there is any truth at all to this story, but in my opinion it doesn't fit with everything else I have experienced with daygame.com.
[The thread starter] just wants approval from random people on forums to be considered our savior, let's not give him the illusion that he is and let's ignore him and continue to practice Daygame and discussing things that actually matter to us, while he just sits on his keyboard creating many accounts on forums pretending he is the savior from the devil guys of Daygame.com.
What if people showed you proof that your doctor isn't really a doctor?
At least there was a small minority of people who assessed this finding for what it was:
disgraceful stuff from tom and daygame. lost my respect.
The thread starter seemed to be the only sensible person in the entire thread. Occam's razor, anyone?
It's funny how hard you try to find an explanation. Remember, what is the easiest explanation of the following facts:
- Agency page (apparently not fake) of an actress quoting daygame.com as a reference
- She writes Tom's real name
- uses the fake name from a daygame.com product (date against the machine)
- looks the same as in the video (sure we don't see her face; but hair, posture, french accent... are the same)
Thus, it would be nice if Andy could upload the raw footage, so we can see her face.
Andy is doing it right. Just deny any knowledge and blame Tom (I don't know if this is the case).
If this is the case, Tom just heavily challenged/harmed (not destroyed) daygame.com's credibility.
Again, I don't blame daygame.com giving shitty advice, being unable to fuck girls or challenge the concept of daygame. I just exposed that at least one infield video is fake. Please see it as quality assurance.
This, of course, presumes (!) the existence of further fake infield footage (either from Tom or the entire daygame.com team).
It seems that "Krauser PUA", or a guy who claims to be him, joined as well. Of course he's dismissing the incriminating video as well. Sadly he is too intimidated to post on my forum. I had fun tearing him apart.
This is my point - these PUAhate weirdos are just twisted. You convince yourselves only looks-money-status matters, as a way of avoiding doing anything to improve your lot in life. Then someone comes along and proves he can bang hot girls without looks-money-status and your world starts to implode and suddenly there's the threatening realisation that you're wrong and your failure with girls is YOUR OWN FAULT FOR NOT MAKING AN EFFORT.
Rather than accept that, you latch onto the slightest hint of evidence - no matter how spurious - that such a guy is fake, so you can retain your Only-LMS-Matters ego-investment. The relentlessness, anger and duplicity with with such weirdos pursue their hating is driven by the desperate need to avoid taking responsibility for their own shitty situation.
Normally I'm happy to let you all wallow in your own misery. The reason I take exception here is because:
(i) Tom and Andy are legit quality daygamers
(ii) Lots of guys reading this board are beginners and thus a bit fragile getting over the initial brutal learning curve. They are more apt to tolerate your nonsense and let themselves get discouraged than the intermediate guys who've already racked up some lays and know from personal experience to ignore clowns like PUAhate. You're actively trying to drag down men who've proven themselves to be better than you. Crabs in a barrel.
I'll post on the hilarious attempt of damage control by the "CEO" of Daygame.com tomorrow. As a teaser, look at this quote:
Nevertheless, I'm investigating this.... it's seems absurd to me that Tom would hire an actress.... the guy is good at daygame and that kiss isn't even that great.... the only explanation I can think of that she found out about it after the fact and for some reason put it on her resum?.... I have no idea.I had to laugh when I read this.