Friday, September 28, 2012

Roosh V Sucks With Women And Doesn't Know It

After bashing  Vince Kelvin, it's time for a break. A guy people on my forum occasionally mention, but someone I haven't paid much attention to is Roosh. His "game" consists of travelling to poorer countries and trying his luck with the ladies. However, more often than not he goes home empty handed.

Roosh has a particularly deluded crowd of followers who don't even realize that there is something wrong with a guy who proclaims that a "real player" gets between five and eight girls in a year. No, this is not a typo. Despite having little luck with the ladies, Roosh keeps on going to foreign countries. Recent highlight included three weeks in Sweden and one or two "lays". For a guy whose full-time job is getting laid this is nothing but pathetic.

A member of my forum, neparlepas, recently collected a number of Roosh's tweets, and I felt like sharing them with the readers of my blog. Read them and marvel. Neparlepas writes:

When Roosh announced he was going to eastern-europe, I was thrilled. I knew that his "pen opener" would make him look like an alien. So for your enjoyment, here is a collection of quotes from his twitter and forum account. 
Don't forget this is from a "professional pua" making a living by teaching guys how to get laid.


Without further ado, here are some of Roosh's own admissions of failure. I find it ludicrous when he calls girls who see through his lame act "simple minded."

My first instinct was to think that these girls don't care about sex, but truth is they're all getting it from some guy. So this neighborhood guy gets easy pussy, while I'm sweating my ass off for measly droppings. It seems like their entire game is "don't show any interest." I can spend an hour with a girl here and have no idea where I stand.
Would you guys call Ukrainian girls "simple minded"? I don't mean that to insult, but from a Western perspective, that's the first word that pops to mind.
What a waste of effort. one month here and I know that Western game will lead to paltry results.
Also a lot of girls here don't drink at all, or just one drink. It's fucked up my whole dating progression. I've never done so many coffee shop dates in my life. And we know that even if a coffee shop date goes well, the odds of sex or even a kiss is very low.
So just when I thought I was figuring it out, last night I was massacred. Just completely shut out. I have to admit that my club ROI is the lowest it's ever been since Colombia. My American sarcasm fell off the boat months ago. You can be funny but it's more of a silly humor they dig instead of the witty/dry humor that Americans dig. They don't understand dry humor here. You know the deadpan humor I use in my old Youtube videos? That doesn't fly here.
It's hard. Night game, anyway. The initial approach is going fine... I'm getting warm responses. Girls ask me where I'm from, etc. But the conversations are crapping out and I can't figure out why. It doesn't help that the girls don't really talk much, because of both a language barrier and their shy nature. One night stands... forget it.
It's not as bad as Latvia, but somewhat similar. I feel like I'm hitting a lot of foul balls. So I am making contact with the ball, but not rounding the bases. Unless the girl is REALLY into me from the beginning, I have no idea what the optimum game is.
(last twitter)
I gave up on Russian b/c main girl speaks English and I have enough survival knowledge. It was a good effort, though I faded bad in the end. And now back to Spanish. :banana:

This is simply breathtaking. Please note that he is unable to realize that the girls are just not into him. Thus, he keeps looking for ways to improve his "game." Buddy, if the girl isn't really into you, it doesn't really matter what you do as long as you move the interaction forward. On the other hand, if she's not into you, then it also doesn't really matter what you do because you simply won't get anywhere.

88 comments:

  1. I found the Russian and Ukrainian girls extremely easy to deal with. Not sure why he had a big problem with them.

    -Assanova

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    1. The running gag is that Roosh has problems with women no matter where he goes. Yet, he lives in a dreamworld in which he is a "successful PUA".

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    2. Hilarious, Thanks for this. What a relief to read some sanity. I suppose to his red pill flying monkeys, the prospect of 8 lays a year is a lot. They must pay a lot for his books, and the fake self esteem boost it gives them.

      I met a guy who spent all day trying to game me before I knew what game was. His techniques were so obvious and it was fun to see what hed say next. How many double meanings per minute etc... My favourite is where he told me things about his 'friend' to see what I would disaprove of. His friend plays a numbers game and can get 1 in 64 girls. I laughed my socks off and said his friend had a terrible hit rate. He looked so disappointed.
      Really anyone who spends so much time on girls as a fixed group of 'all the same' should have figured out by now the approach is not working.

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  2. That's all well and good, but I really want to see a post on Roissy. He's probably the biggest PUA blogger right now, and he's so full of shit he makes my brain bleed.

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    1. I have the same problem with Roissy. Every time I look at his blog and try to read something, I hardly ever make it past the first two paragraphs. I find it downright bizarre when people refer to him as an "intellectual." If you look at his posts, you see that he is peppering them with big words almost at random, often using inappropriate ones, or messing up metaphors or disregarding language levels.

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    2. Roissy appears worse because his bullshit has more followers, but as others have noted, his site has the unexpected effect of actually de-programming a lot of people from game. It's not just the flowery language and mixed metaphors (actually, 'mixed' is being too generous, it's more like a metaphor puree), his general philosophy will lead most readers who still possess a modicum of sanity to draw the following conclusions:

      1. If the world is like Roissy describes, then I want to kill myself
      2. If following Roissy's model is the way to salvation, then I want to kill myself even more.

      Thankfully, the real world is nothing like Roissy's softcore collapse porn, and it's pretty easy to conclude that he and his followers have lost the plot entirely. Roosh's approach, however, is more annoying, because he presents himself as some sort of "everyman," and he thinks that his frustration with American women represents that of the average dude. No; Most American men with a shred of common sense are doing fine. In addition, Roosh doesn't seem to be very bright or openminded when it comes to discussing American women. He has lived in ONE motherfucking American city in his adult life, and he draws all sorts of conclusions about US females based on it. Just drive 40 miles North to Baltimore and you'll see a world of difference in interests and attitude. But no, Roosh chooses to dismiss Baltimore based on a few nights out in FUCKING POWERPLANT LIVE. That's the thing; how can you draw conclusions women in cities, much less women in general, if you don't know where the actual cool areas to hang out are?

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  3. If your ROI is bad in Colombia, you are bad. I'm sorry. I'm even saying that as a white man living here that can barely speak any Spanish

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    1. It's easy to have great ROI Colombia... if you're chasing a bunch of average girls or throwing money around.

      Now you're probably going to say that you're pulling 8s and 9s or whatever, but there really is no way to prove that without photos.

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    2. Hahaha! Dude, Roosh himself goes straight for the bottom of the barrel and avoids educated, financially well-off women at all costs. Well, they avoid him, to be more correct. Or why do you think he left Denmark?

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    3. Buddy, here is one of the "super hot" chicks of Roosh:
      http://i.imgur.com/4SU24.png

      You've clearly picked the wrong guy to worship.

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    4. The "average" girl in Colombia is pretty beautiful.

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    5. Roosh gets loota flack but mark zolo doesnt he even bangs under age girls n no body says anythin....naughtynomad is his site

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    6. @Aaron
      She's not "super hot" but that is an impressive score for Roosh IMHO. Just look at him!! She is definitely above his league. In certain videos and photos, Roosh does look like a good looking man if you are into the hairy, shaggy, bearded masculine type. He is muscular (evident when he wears V necks), has low % body fat and he is quite tall. But in other pics, Roosh looks like one ugly Cro Magnon mofo and his hair looks downright nasty (with split-ends and what not. Looks like a rat's nest) at times. The blonde cougar is attractive, especially for her age, and she looks like the type that digs hairy, bearded, shaggy masculine men. So good for him if he actually banged her.

      I really think that Roosh fabricates a lot of shit though. I don't see this guy getting laid as much as he claims he has. Unless I'm over-rating the importance of not looking like a Cro Magnon! lol. In his earlier years, he did groom himself a lot better. Cutting his hair short and he wasn't growing out his beard. But then he would have missed out on the chicks who digged beards and hairy men back then.

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  4. This is insane!

    I also have the same problem with roissy, I just can't finish a page of his drivel.

    Mark Manson seems to think he's pretty smart, haha, but we've already covered his intelligence in the "why do you want pick-up to be difficult post".

    Keep up the good work Sleazy!

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    1. Somehow I got the impression that a lot of not-so-bright people think Roissy is super-smart. Likewise, a ton of guys who can't get laid look up to Roosh who barely gets laid himself.

      The world is a strange place indeed.

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  5. Until you're getting laid in the places where Roosh failed, your criticisms are baseless.

    "No; Most American men with a shred of common sense are doing fine."

    Not even remotely true. Most men are so desperate for pussy they'll do anything for it.

    Why are birthrates plummeting across the world if men are getting laid so much?

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    1. Dude, don't distract. I thought there was "game" that gets you laid anywhere. Thus, if Roosh claims he has "game" but doesn't get laid in Colombia, then there's a nasty contradiction there. So, either he has no "game" or "game" just doesn't exist. Yet, it's also a fact that he has done very poorly with the women there.

      I'd say a lot of guys are doing very well. If most men had a problem with girls, wouldn't then the seduction industry be much larger? Most men aren't into bodybuilding, it's a minority. Yet, this minority makes up a multi-billion dollar market. In comparison, I wouldn't be surprised if the seduction industry amounted to less than a few million dollars a year.

      The issue with birth rates is a bit more complicated. It's a general phenomenon in the Western world, and also in countries in which the seduction industry is pretty much unheard of.

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    2. Why are birthrates plummeting across the world if men are getting laid so much?

      Uh... it's called contraception, increased female employment, and social security? Read a book.

      -swagbeans

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    3. I think the majority of guys do just well enough to not be prompted to search out the seduction community. I think many guys settle into a LTR with someone that'll do for them, rather than guys getting lots of casual sex with hot girls. I think on average guys have slept with around a dozen women in their lives. I'm sure most would like a lot more.

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    4. The average is much lower, and more like 7. However, averages are skewed by outliers, so the median is presumably much lower. Just think of the income distribution, where the average is also dramatically higher than the median.

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  6. Hay, I cannot blame you for anything, if you even as bit of disagree with him, you get INSTANTLY banned on sight. The guy is literally full of shit and his forum members are the worst, they lie about their "travels" and everything. If you do not believe me, one respected blogger called him out twice already, all Roosh has done is make fun of the blogger's race

    http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/roosh-v-the-failed-experiment-in-a-social-evolution-coming-to-the-dating-world/

    http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/i-introduce-you-to-the-biggest-fraud-in-the-datingpua-business/

    here is Roosh's comeback

    http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-12759-page-8.html

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    1. Thanks for those links! If you've got more, then please share them with me. I've been collecting stuff on Roosh here and there for a while, and have been sent some interesting material too, like the image I've linked to above.

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    2. By the way, the most hilarious guy on Roosh's forum is a user named "GManifesto". He writes unintentional comedy at its finest. On the one hand, he claims to be a "pimp" who is rolling in dough, but on the other he is flying Ryan Air. When he was called out on that, he really lost his shit. It's too bad that this guy is so insignificant, otherwise, I'd make fun of him on my blog. Nonetheless, he had me in stitches more than a few times.

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    3. Actually, on one of those blogs, I think the one that bashes his forum members, a lot of pics of him are posted, the guy looks like an ape.

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  7. Check this out sleazy , i think you'll like it. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10gm93/why_i_hate_rsd_my_experience/

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    1. After the great RSD escape story I posted last week, another great perspective from a normal guy who sees through their bullshitty act! Thanks for telling me about it. I've only skimmed it but it looks very good as it illustrates how incredibly weird Real Social Dynamics really is

      I had to laugh at this:

      "The things that fucked me up the most were concepts like no-ego, state, entitlement, extreme self love, nimbus, the claw, dont give a shit, acting like a drunk fratboy, acting like a sexual predator making people believe im fucking weird, apocalypse opener, who is reacting more than the other and lots of others from RSD."

      First you think he'll mention two or three things and then he goes on and on and on.

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    2. oops thats where i meant to post it, thats what happens when you only open links in new tabs and have multiple open.

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  8. Roosh is an interesting read. I prefer his honesty, everyone has tougher patches when looking to get with woman. He actually talks about it.

    You are 100% correct about G manifesto though. How people cant see through his shiet and actually listen to what he has to say amazes me. Gets super defensive when anyone asks for him to back up his claims, as if backing up absurd claims is somehow a ridiculous request.

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    1. I used to skim read his blog. I've not really spent much time on Rooshs Forum, so I don't know what he's written there, but he made some pretty large claims on his blog.

      He sells an ebook called '007 Lifestyle', and has produced several 'datasheets' based on his time in various high-end bars and clubs. Occasionally trains at the Wildcard gym in Vegas, custom made suits, etc.

      I never really had reason to doubt him before, it's an exceptional lifestyle, but by no means impossible. If he's lying though, it's a lie of pathological proportion. Read his '25 Things' post, you'll see what I mean.

      Personally I'd like someone to take a deeper look, see if it's all fantasy.

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    2. To me it reads like teenage fantasies. There are also a few inconsistencies you can spot right away, and I'm sure if I dug right into it, I'd find many more.

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  9. To add insult to the injury, in his last post, he posted a video about lying. Some people actually don't believe his "stories" and think they are "too good to be true". Ahahaha wtf? What stories? After the disaster in Eastern-Europe the guy went to Croatia (tourist paradise) and didnt even get laid there for 1 full month upon arrival.

    http://www.rooshv.com/youre-a-liar

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    1. This was downright bizarre! Not getting laid for a month? What's so hard to believe about that if you've been following Roosh? :P

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  10. Been waiting for this Sleazy taught you pussied out and was to scared of Roosh, I'm pretty sure your views are at an all time high. Don't be surprised if Roosh strikes back "Indirectly" that's his still he he he

    Vance Superme

    Zenmack.com

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    1. Roosh's comeback was to delete some threads on his forum.

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    2. Well, as a woman searching for evidence of humanity... Insulting Roosh will only get you publicity for sane people to come here and know the world is OK. Some of his followers will switch, although you might have to fool them by using some long words, and quite possibly you could have reasoned discussions with relieved women about their dating experiences. Then everyone is learning and everyone is happy.

      Mr Sleazy, you may just have saved humanity!

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  11. If Roosh cut his hair, beard, and stopped looking like a homeless man, he would do better.

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  12. Worst part of it all, he ends up blaming it on race like with his totem pole post, yet on the flip side if you even bring race up on his forum you are quickly banned. Look what he did to the Indian guy who just questioned his totem pole post, he permanently banned him and then made a 15 page hate thread against Indians on there. The guy's posts are counterproductive to PUA anyways, he blames his situation on location and race far too much.

    Reesearch came at him hard and people on the comments section are going wild over the BS roosh has put them through.

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  13. lol and here you guys are, bashing him for getting laid and quitting the corporate grind to do something he enjoys. So how many lays have you gotten? Oh and don't start using the excuse that you have a real job, if you actually read some of Roosh's stuff properly he had a pretty huge bang history back in the US too when he worked his boring 9-5.

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    1. Dude, if Roosh had a normal 9-to-5 job and would get laid as much, or little, as he does, then there wouldn't be a reason to bash him (well, if he didn't also pretend that he was some kind of player). Seriously, if your life is all about getting pussy and you have dry spells of a month or more, then you apparently suck. Other guys build impressive careers or work on other goals, while they get laid more than him.

      What, wait, if Roosh really had a "pretty huge bang history in the US", then why on earth did he quit his job, and travel around in order to get laid less? Something just doesn't add up at all, buddy.

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  14. Consider the following
    1. He permits guys like "manboobz" or "Feminist extraordinaire David H. Fucktrelle" to abuse him on the comments section of his blog with the vilest language

    2. He permits feminists from feministing.com to abuse him with their irrational blather on the comments section of his blog

    3. Yet when I posted a simple link with Aaron sleazy expressing his doubts about Roosh, I get banned on the goddamn comments section of his blog. Not the forum, but the comments section.

    It is clear that Roosh fears Aaron sleazy. It is clear that shrill feminists and manboobz are no threats to Roosh, but sleazy is a massive threat. You might just destroy his blogging career Sleazy.

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    1. Well, feminists attacking Roosh only serves his agenda. He can point to them and tell his fans, "See, the feminazis disagree with me. This proves that I'm right." On the other hand, a guy with a certain reputation in the field of seduction questioning him, means that his position is undermined.

      Roosh just can't point to me and say, "Geez, look at Sleazy! He says that I'm not getting laid but he's just hating." Then the guys check out my arguments and realize that I know what I am talking about and that I'm actually right. Obviously, this wouldn't be too good for him, and it's the reason why he is quick to delete posts on his forum that mention my name.

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    2. FWIW, I'm the actual David Futrelle/Man Boobz blogger, and I've never commented on Roosh's blog. The "David H. Fucktrelle" guy was someone called StonerWithABoner with a grudge against me.

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    3. I'm a guy, and Roosh banned me from his blog after two comments. I can only guess which one did it. In one of them, I do remember pointing out that a real man conquers the world instead of sitting around whining about it (the way Roosh is always whining about modern girls supposedly being sluts).

      In other words, instead of whining about how girls are misbehaving because of feminism, go make a girl your girlfriend/wife and then teach her how to behave properly. If your romantic skills cannot accomplish this, then they are useless.

      I don't think Roosh appreciated that I questioned his manhood.

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    4. Madness, but he leaves up a post of mine saying the same thing as evidence of bitter feminism.

      IIllimitableMan is the same. 3 well formed and balanced comments fail moderation.
      Then I challenge his ego in a 4th and he posts it just to write a judgy comeback. Then he recieved praising comments from his flying monkeys which were equally deluded.
      I think its a mental illness. Im not just saying that because it's their favourite insult to women, I really truly think it is a full on brain chemistry disorder somewhere on the antisocial spectrum.

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  15. roosh is at it again, he has threatened naughty nomad if naughty nomad does not ban the users roosh wants banned

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  16. Anyone read that book from the RooshV poster Neil Skywanker, eh I mean Skywalker?

    http://www.aroundtheworldin80girls.com/

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  17. Where does anyone claim a real player gets between five and eight girls per year?

    Roosh does no workshops and charges little for books. He agrees with Aaron Sleazy that there is a numbers aspect because "game" is not an overriding factor.

    The average chump who gets only a few women in his life would not get laid in a new country before mastering the language. Roosh provides an honest service by reporting on culture, conditions, and logistics in different places. Why the hate?

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    1. Hey man,

      were you the same guy who asked the question on the forum as well? Either way, here is the relevant discussion, and source of the quote, if someone else is interested:
      http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1615

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  18. I think you have Roosh completely wrong. His complaints about American women and American culture in general are spot on. The women are very shallow as is the culture. Materialism to the extreme, social media whoring, trashy tattoos and PJs out in public, loud and filthy mouthed, obese, lack of respect for elders and professionals and instead a worshiping of Kim Kardashian and other untalented trash. It's a wasteland, and I don't think that is something that can be argued any other way. The only thing we had going for us was wealth, but even that is quickly fading as the sun sets on our bankrupt empire. Once you travel a bit, you immediately realize that the USA way of life is not the ONLY correct way to live. It's American ignorance at its finest to say otherwise.

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    1. I've spent about six weeks or so in the US, and most of the time in NYC. Frankly, I didn't see much white trash over there. True, in NYC people were a bit more reserved, but certainly not all of them. In Chicago, they were actually very friendly. I liked the vibe of NYC much more than London, for instance. Sure, there are obese women, and men, and there are plenty of shallow people around, too. But you get the same in Europe and other parts of the world as well. The more affluent corners of Eastern Europe are not much different from what you see in more "developed" countries.

      With regards to "American ignorance", I am sorry to burst your bubble, but even though Europe is supposed to be oh-so sophisticated, at least in the eyes of liberal Americans, I can assure you that we've got a seemingly never-ending supply of imbecile and corrupt politicians and business leaders. There is a new scandal basically every week.

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    2. Sleazy, you did not respond to the points made in the original post you were replying to. (I am not the original poster).

      I do not know if Roosh is a poser or legit. I do think he is correct in his assessment of American Women. I should know. I have had over a 100 of them. Now I live in Brazil. I find that a lot of the American poison has found it's way over here. Brazilian women were entirely different 10 years ago when I came here for the first time. Now, they are not noticeably different from the American loser chicks that I ran away from.

      So, Roosh might be lousy as a PUA. Maybe that's true. But, his railing against American girls is spot on. I wish I could report that Brazilians are a better breed. They were. Long ago. Now thanks to American Movies and TV shows.... The poor examples portrayed in them has led to an emulation here of all the worst traits American girls have. The one thing they do have over American girls is that they are *mostly* still thin. American girls are all hogs now. With about 1% of the population truly thin and in shape back in America. And Brazilian girls know it. They love to remind me at every opportunity "American Girls are fat", always said with a huge smile and usually a loud laugh.

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    3. Lets be more specific, The women of America, UK, Australia, West europe, North Europe, and some parts of east Europe are this way. are very shallow as is the culture. Materialism to the extreme, social media whoring, trashy tattoos and PJs out in public, loud and filthy mouthed, obese, lack of respect for elders and professionals.

      I will agree with you, most parts of East Europe are not that great either, but the women are very nice in terms of attitude.

      BTW< I hate Roosh, but he is accurate of not just America, but Australia and UK. I still think game is BS. Like the only way a guy can get hot chicks is by being tall and good looking. IF you are a 5'5 guy, and Indian, no hope. I have to settle for fat woman unfortunately, and RooshV does not tell us guys this.

      I ma just building a career for now, I did not get the lucky genetics, so it is either fatties or nothing for me.

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    4. You're massively overgeneralizing. People are not quite as bad as you think they are, and women in Western countries are certainly not all fat. I do congratulate you on your decision to improve your life. Those are metrics that actually matter, as opposed to "game" bullshit.

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  19. JEalosy is a bitch xD

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  20. While our friend certainly has his issues you clearly have a faulty idea of going overseas. Firstly, "Sweden" is not a poor country or a place which is significantly easy -- it's a place strictly for high rollers. It can be particularly difficult given that male competition is significantly high. But that said, some of the nightclubs which Roosh never ventured into (possibly due to money/social status/guest lists) have some of the most beautiful, feminine, and elegant women that Europe has to offer. They only exist in higher tier clubs, and not hipster bars Roosh goes to. It's definitely not a city for idiot simple minded folk who run cocky-funny American game.

    As for Ukraine and Russia, you're foolish for assuming it's easy. Firstly, there is several difficulties involved. Eastern Europe is no longer a place of male shortage. The women are fairly traditional and stick to their men provided they are decent provider types. This doesn't mean sugar daddies who buys them big fluffy teddy bears, but just men who they can see as their future husbands.

    Ukraine and Russia are progressing economically, meaning that the men no longer need to work in foreign oil rigs or as engineers/cheap-labour in London, preferring to stay in their native country, causing the dating dynamic to be restored to something representing equilibrium.

    Ukranian women are preferential to germanic looking men (as they're traditional and surrounded by slavic group think), so this goes against Roosh's favor. He wont acknowledge this, of course, because apparently he does well in Poland -- a much more progressive country where women have a bit of a preference for Spanish Erasmus students that look like Roosh.

    Ukraine also has a significant sex tourism industry, making the entire courting mechanism entirely more predictable for women being approached by the foreigner. Especially when their own men are back, why would they go for foreigners who are easily stigmatised as potential sex tourists?

    The amount of English spoken in the Ukraine also adds to the difficulty.

    It's definitely a wild wild west destination for men, and isn't as simple as you make it out to be. Ukranian women are also the most beautiful in the world. This is debatable with the following cities: Kiev, Belgrade, St Petersburg/Moscow. If you want scientific data, well look at the amount of haplogroup variation there is for ukranians and you'll realise that they're one of the most genetically diverse people in the world.

    Ukranian women are still highly prized and will do a dump on the chest of any of America's best women. Why? 1. Aesthetics 2. Femininity -- everything from body language, voice, mannerisms, freudian penis envy, sexually submissive behaviour, intelligence.

    Roosh is wrong on American feminism though. Feminism isn't whats destructive to american women. It's intra-competition among the sexes and sex economic ratios heavily favouring american women. Just about all American states have a 10% gap for single 18-30 year olds favoring women. And a slowing birth rate will produce a bigger older male cohort exhausting a slimmer 18-25 female cohort. It's simple economics. Why is it like this? Simple: America has been importing foreign skilled workers since the introduction of various temp/perm work visa classes. Skilled workers are usually 67%/25% male/female. Obesity plagues around 30% of American women. The math is definitely going in the wrong direction.

    Roosh is entirely bitter about feminism, when all feminism does is enable women to realise their economic status within the market place. IF the math favored men, feminism would be a very beautiful thing. And indeed, in places like Finland and Norway, it is a very beautiful enabler.

    If you're seriously defending American women, I doubt you've travelled enough or lived in a major european city with sizeable talent.

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  21. OMG he is the boss i cant believe he gets laid for living. This Blog opened my ming

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    1. Quite the opposite is true. Roosh does NOT get laid for a living. How cool is that?

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  22. Generally girls in other countries have three main factors:

    1) Thinner, more attractive
    2) more feminine personality
    3) more conservative - ie hard to hook up with quickly

    Please until you have actually traveled to several countries to see how it works, don't player hate. Don't mistake girls being conservative and taking things very slowly, with Roosh failing. I've seen it myself how a hot girl will take a long time to decide she is willing to risk her self opinion to fuck a foreigner.

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    1. Oh, the "hater charge" again! Now, step back and think critically whether Roosh really is a ladies' man. Maybe start with reading the article and the comments, and then read the three bullet points you wrote down again. It might strike you as odd that they don't have much to do with the kind of woman Roosh himself approaches. Didn't he recommend to hit on the drunkest girls outside the club at the end of the night?

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  23. Aaron Sleazy wrote,

    "Hahaha! Dude, Roosh himself goes straight for the bottom of the barrel and avoids educated, financially well-off women at all costs. Well, they avoid him, to be more correct. Or why do you think he left Denmark?"

    While on holiday last year, I met an RVF member that had crossed paths with Roosh in Denmark. On several occasions he and mates observed Roosh gaming girls in clubs. He was rejected continuously, and thus reduced to hitting on the bottom rung of local talent. That member stated this subset of girls isn't something any local guy associate with drunk or sober, for social repercussions.

    Aaron is spot on. The rare times Roosh can hookup, it is with women 99% of men dismiss. Cheers.

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  24. Do you read cedonulli? He's in Eastern Europe right now. A quote, if I might:

    "i could pump this up into a huge saga, talk about how i am such a fucking stud, that i have such motherfucking snoggled out game, sell you a bunch of pickup ebooks and whatnot. you’d come here, after reading my ebooks, and you’ll be able to pick up girls. you’ll think you are a hero, and i’m your god, because i taught you how to get girls in eastern europe.

    i’ve never been here before. i’m a little huffled, because i read all the stories. all the dudes making themselves sound like superheroes. meanwhile …

    a motherfucking monkey could pick up girls here. bitches, please."

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  25. Forgot to include the link: http://cedonulli.com/a-new-virus-is-killing-all-sexy-girls/

    This guy doesn't sell ebooks, he's just talking about his experiences living in Eastern Europe. And he's lived all over the world, tons of fun stories, so his accounts are a little more realistic that the stretched out bullshit that Roosh is trying to peddle.

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  26. Just to add couple of words here: roosh does not live from writing or blogging.He teaches english.
    Since he does not have a working permit in Ukraine and a law allows to enter Ukraine only for 3 months-he is border hopping between Romania and Ukraine and works there illegally.

    All what he writes about Ukrainian women is just hilarious.

    ps: I am a Ukrainian myself.

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  27. Banging as a traveler or banging travelers is totally different. Everyone is out for a bang and the social consequences are short lived. You aren't a master casanova for picking up a girl as a foreigner or picking up a travelling female. That's like bragging that you got laid while studying abroad...so what? It's not like he took his biology degree and banged some hot French scientist on the verge of curing cancer. He bangs women from countries where models are scouted at 12 because people are just that desperate. Where children were sent to ballet companies just to have food to eat and a place to live. Where the ballerinas were then turned to glorified prostitutes. Europeans are not more liberal about sex...they are just conditioned to think less of it so that men get what they want. Nude beaches, legal to consent at 13yo...that sounds like grown men making laws to get their rocks off. Getting laid there is not that hard. He looks like a Middle Eastern terrorist that's why nobody wants his ass. Most girls can spot a player and go along with it becaue they don't want ot get attached either. Women have sexual needs. You aren't some mind voodoo master for having sex with a horny girl. lol. These guys sound like sad ass middle schoolers. Like something traumatizing happened to them and they can't rest until they feel vindicated.

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  28. I get confused by Game. The whole point is to bang a top tier girl and get hotter, better quality ones everytime. But classy ladies don't bang that quick or easy therefore the whole Game is pointless. If she does then she is no longer classy or of quality. Why would she risk her morals and reputation? Why would you want a classy woman to degreade herself by acting like a whore? I am so confused. Do you want this classy woman as a girlfriend or as a bang? Why would a clssy woman choose a player. She never will that's why she is classy. So stop being a player and drop Game and you might earn her. Otherwise all you will get are the drunk, sluts looking for a quick bang.

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  29. At least he (kind of) admits to being a shitty PUA. Very courageous though.. the only one I've read who dislikes women with such a passion. I've never found anger at my own shortcomings to be a successful strategy for getting laid, in fact the opposite (you know, charm and confidence). Thanks to Roosh, for teaching me way more than he could ever have expected.

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    1. Yes, it's obvious that he dislikes women. This makes it more than ironic that his entire life evolves around women. It seems the carrot on the stick is effective.

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  30. I've seen Roosh and he's not very attractive, and that's why he doesn't do so well with women. He probably thinks he doesn't have anything to do with looks (bullshit).

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  31. I am sooooooooooo glad that you're calling this douche bag out, I literally want to kiss you right now. He is FAR from an intellectual, and he sure as hell is no Casanova. He thinks that because he goes to impoverished countries and sleeps with women that this makes him some kind of playboy. When all the while, the truth is that the few women that do sleep with him are doing it because they think if they sleep with him, he's going to buy them a sandwich. Like honestly the girls that sleep with him are literally only doing so because they're hoping to get something in return and because he's American and they have this high expectations of him due to a stereotype that they have etched into their brains. This misogynistic piece of shit is such a "playboy" yet he can only get laid by women from dirt poor villages. If he's such a big baller then why can't he get laid by American girls? Hmmm... probably because we can all see past his fucking bullshit and two seconds flat. Oh, and not to mention the fact that there's no language barrier here (he's using that to his advantage) and the fact that most of the women in America can afford to eat on a daily basis and we know that sleeping with some ugly asshole isn't gonna get us anywhere.

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    1. That's quite an emotional reaction, Kiana! In which context did you come across Roosh?

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    2. someone on tumblr posted about his website returnofkings, I went on and was immediately disgusted. Then I noticed he had a little "about me" area and I was even more disgusted. I read a few of his articles about his trips to Poland and the Ukraine any time he gets turned down by a woman, he tries to criticize them. For instance, he kept getting turned down in Warsaw so he made a comment about how all the women there have huge noses and premature wrinkles. Hahaha, this guy is a joke, he just makes me so angry because all he does is spread hate and encourage things like rape and eating disorders. I do get emotional when I speak about him because I am a person who has suffered with an eating disorder, so to see him condone women having them is extremely fucked up and women (including myself) live in fear of rape every day. We can't even walk alone down the street because we don't know what horrors await us in an alley or in a dark corner. So for him to be telling men that a woman's "no really means yes" just shows what a piece of shit he really is. I just want to go Patrick Bateman on this guy, I can't stand him!

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    3. The fear of rape is certainly much exaggerated. If you go out, get drunk, and then walk around in a really bad part of town, then some unfortunate things might happen. On a more abstract level, it's no different for a guy. In fact, I'd say it's worse for a guy since he will be more likely to be beaten up. I've witnessed a few pretty nasty fights in my life, but I never saw a woman being pummeled.

      "No means yes" is bullshit, though. I mean, if it were true how else would a woman be able to say that she doesn't like what's going on.

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    4. I would say that the fear of rape and the fear of robbery is equal, if anything. The fear of rape definitely isn't exaggerated in my opinion. You really wouldn't be able to understand unless you were a woman, just like women can't fully understand what it's like to stand in a man's shoes. But most women can't even walk down the street without being harassed with cat calls or even being followed (which has happened to me on a few occasions and was completely terrifying). But people have this idea in their minds that women can only be raped in a bad part of town if it's late at night. But that's completely not true, rapists aren't just men in trench-coats wielding switch blades. A rapist can be anyone; a frat boy, a professor, a priest and that's what's so scary about the whole thing. Actually, the form of rape that is most common is date rape and more often than not women are raped by their own friends, spouses or partners. Women are raped on subways in broad daylight all the time. So I definitely don't think that the fear of rape is exaggerated and I think women have every right to want to fight against this idea of "boys will be boys" and make a firm stand against sex without consent. When people like Roosh encourage rape with the bullshit articles he writes, it makes the world a much more dangerous place for women, because he is basically telling men that it's okay to rape and it's okay to hurt women and he's desensitizing people to the seriousness of the offense and even worse, he's encouraging victim blaming which is never okay.

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    5. "Actually, the form of rape that is most common is date rape and more often than not women are raped by their own friends, spouses or partners."

      It seems you're using a very 'liberal' definition of rape. You know, your boyfriend may not always feel like pounding you either, but you would laugh at him if he told you that you're raping him. Yet, if you feel obliged to have sex with him, because he's your boyfriend, but you don't feel 100% like it, it's suddenly rape.

      "Women are raped on subways in broad daylight all the time."

      Come on! I must have a few thousand hours of my life riding subways, but never witnessed anything even remotely close to 'rape'. If this were common at all, I'm sure there would be warning signs and security all over the place. Of course, some feminists speak of 'mini rapes' if a sexually or economically undesirable man looks at some chick, but let's be serious here.

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    6. Okay, first of all there is no such thing as a "liberal" definition of rape. Rape is rape and the definition doesn't vary based on your political views. Unless by using that statement, you're implying that right wingers constantly dismiss rape as a minor offense, then yes I agree with you. Secondly, if my boyfriend didn't want to have sex with me and I physically forced him to then yes, that would be rape, in fact the literal definition of rape is: any act of sexual intercourse that is physically forced upon a person. So no, I would laugh at my boyfriend for labeling me a rapist if I committed the act because I would have earned the title. I honestly can not understand your point of view. Are you telling me that if my boyfriend came into my room right now, held me down, ripped my pants off and forced himself onto me against my will that it would not be considered rape? That sounds pretty ridiculous to me. Also, you're making it sound like women cry rape all the time like it's nothing. If you actually looked at statistics you would know that only 16% of rapes get reported, and of that, only 25% result in arrest. Women do report more than men because 1 in 6 women in the US alone have experienced rape while 1 in 33 men have. Most men don't report rapes because of the social stigma that surrounds it, men don't want to be labeled "gay" and there's ridiculous belief that men are always supposed to want sex regardless of the situation, which most people should know is not true. On the other hand, most women don't report rapes because either A.) They'll get blamed for their own rape B.) They're afraid no one will believe them C.) They think people will look down upon them or D.) They're afraid that their rapist will attack them again if they report. Due to the fact that so few rapes are reported, I can't seem to understand the way you look at rape victims and women in general as "the little boy who cried wolf". I don't know what kind of things you've been reading, but there's no such thing as a "mini rape" either, there's harassment and then there's rape. Harassment is not "mini rape" it's harassment and it's far from just looking at a woman. If you put your hands on a person with bad intentions, against their will, then that would be considered harassment. As far as public rapes go, I will admit that they're not as common as rape in private places but they do happen often. Don't believe me? Here's proof:

      http://www.today.com/id/30105703/ns/today-today_news/t/she-cried-rape-no-one-helped/#.UwOjTjEo7IV

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/23/court-gang-rape-indian-village-birbhum

      http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Police-Investigate-Attempted-Rape-Subway-Harlem-3-Train-239860321.html

      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-woman-gang-raped-aboard-van-in-brazil-while-boyfriend-shackled-police-say/

      http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9062601

      http://gothamist.com/2012/02/10/cops_woman_raped_in_bowery_j_train.php

      Just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it isn't happening. These are only a few examples of the many articles out there, and these are only the rapes that have been reported and given attention, so imagine if every public rape was reported. People don't just cry rape, it's actually happening and it's a lot more common than people would like to believe.

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    7. "Liberal" can mean many things, and a lot of them have no political slant. This takes care of your opening statements.

      Okay, while you may not laugh at your boyfriend who accused you of rape, society will. However, if you accuse your boyfriend of rape, he'll be totally fucked, even if you've got no evidence at all. Countless men have spent years in prison even when no sexual contact at all took place, and it's much easier for a vindictive woman to send her partner to jail for crying rape.

      Further, please do not twist my words. Let's say you don't feel like spreading your legs for your bf, so he proceeded rubbing your crotch a little bit until you warmed up a bit. For feminists, this is rape, since it lacked "enthusiastic consent". Likewise, let's say you feel like having a good romp, but your bf's cock is flaccid, so you start stroking his crotch, even though he seems busy reading the WSJ. He gets hard and then pounds you. Rape? Well, if he said so, he'd be laughed at. Just like teenage boys who were raped by their teachers are being ridiculed in the media.

      Don't bother with your bogus statistics. A huge number of reported rapes is complete bullshit. It may sound shocking to you, but there are Scandinavian countries with a very, well, generous interpretation of rape, and what happens is that the police just doesn't take a lot of that bullshit seriously. Think about it: if a woman went to the police two weeks after some dude banged her, and she gets pissed because he doesn't call her back --- how plausible is that? Then there are all the women who cheat on their partners, get caught and/or regret their actions, and accuse the guy they willingly fucked of rape. Yeah, how very fucking convenient!

      Women cry rape all the time, and a lot has to happen for them to get just a slap on the wrist. But, hey, who needs evidence when you can take a woman's word for it? After all, feminists claim that women don't lie about rape. Yeah, women don't lie about anything. There all little angels who couldn't do any harm to anybody.

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    8. Your denial of rape as something either laughable, or that women mostly make up to cover for cheating, regret or outright lies about consenual sex is some repugnant shit. Makes you look like total douchebag. You seem to believe you have ' a "reputation in the seduction community" (or in debunking it, can't be really sure which it is, this blog is pretty substance free,) so you may not care about anything other than furthering that "reputation", but for some one who is, or was, preoccupied with getting laid by women, you know very very little; what you do is express your prejudices & fears about women as if somehow the horrible or bitchy women you ve encountered in your life are emblematic of all women. Or you spew about that men's rights favourite, feminists. Reading this post about that Roosh V I thought you were you'd be better, that you are not the sad sack he is. But with you last posts here, you demonstrate that you are simply on the less reprehensible end of the spectrum. This seemed like a honest take down of a disgusting so-called 'artist'; instead it just seems to be little more than sour grapes disguised as bewilderment about how that loser can call himself a pua while having so 'little luck with the ladies', in spite of which his blog and forum has many many times the numbers this one has.

      In what universe is the rape (of men and women) or women's fear of it an exaggeration? And anyone past the age of consent knows what 'date rape' is; it has nothing whatever to with a boyfriend not 'always wanting to pound you'. Seriously, you cannot be this ignorant. It beggars belief how much 'seducers' like you lot are simultaneously obsessed with women, and getting as many of them as possible in bed, yet at the exact same time display such contempt, and palpable fear appearing enraged they have any rights at all. (Btw, in the pua/seduction universe there seem to be fixation with & down right glee that according to them women's value depreciates with age while theirs increases. That women who wouldnt give them the time of day when they were younger & most valuable - in the words of one of these guys, when they re most 'fertile' - now are crawling back to petrified 'gamers' like them, but it's no dice, payback's a bitch. This seems to be a fantasy or wishful thinking; if these guys say it often enough & believe it enough maybe it will come true. Women don't' have value to little men like this other than as 'lays', docile homemakers and/or breeders. It's as if they don't know we 're all going to get old & die. Spending that energy denigrating women as a gender because a few turned you down, cheated you, made fun of you, was rude to you on the subway or whatever & obsessing about all the 'chicks' you never got to or will never get to sleep with you, does not make that cold reality go away.

      And your casting aside Kiana 's "bogus statistics" was just so... special. Had a good chuckle at one. A 'seduction expert' equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears, chanting "no, can't hear/see no evil hear no evil". You re really really desperate to believe women are such whole scale liars (Gee, can't get my hair done today, might just falsely accuse some poor guy of rape instead), that nothing.. no stats, no reasoned argument will convince you they re human beings just like men - with similar faults and flaws - and that horrendous crap happens to them too. No they 're malicious sociopaths simply making it up. Its the men that suffer. Women exist mainly to get fucked, er 'seduced', or they screw ~you~ over in this bizarro seduction world view. What a pathetic way to be.

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  32. I've been reading Roosh know where does he say rape is okay in fact his against it.Nor does he encourage behaviour such as RSD Julian's.His got a thread criticising it.
    As a ex soldier who has stopped rape by the enemy and as a LEO I find it offensive that because I like to pick up woman I'm suddenly a doosh rapist or a bad man.
    I remember reading my ex wife's Cosmo magazine once..If you cheat on him don't tell him he doesn't need to know or its his fault you cheated on him..Or there is this red headed guy I know with a dark hair Italian looking son he raised for 10 years to find out his blonde wife was having an affair with the Italian looking dude next door for years.Or soldiers coming home from deployment to find their houses cleaned out ,wife gone.
    If you want to stop rape go pick up an AK and go fight against ISAL with the Kurds.

    As for Roosh..well I really love Danish women.Three of the best looking women in my life have been Danish and I've been with some really pretty Americans...I'm not American but nothing beats a cool yank playa chick...I must have met the thin ones on my travels...amongst my mates everyone really rates yank chicks highly.

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  33. Roosh is an idiot for numerous reasons but one glaring reason is the belief he has that having sex with girls is about how well you can play a game. I wonder if its ever crossed his mind that maybe, just maybe, its all about sexual attraction? He seems to think that girls are not attracted to guys until that guy has proved he is an "alpha male". Looks are very important to girls though, and Roosh is not an attractive person which explains his lack of success with girls.

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  34. LOL, Roosh is nothing but a serial liar. He's so desperate to get laid that he comes across like a sleazy used-car salesman. His "alpha male" theory is utter baloney- girls like what they like and not all them like a poser-pimp, he-man wannabe.

    I'm not particularly "hot" or attractive as men go and I'm not rich, but before I was married I went to bed with *lots* of women, and I did it by being nice (GASP) and making them laugh, and by connecting with them on a level other than the "I JUST WANT TO BANG YOU" strategy.

    Be nice, have them enjoy their time with you by getting them to laugh, and you'll have a way better success rate than serial-liar Roosh has ever had (and ever WILL have).

    Roosh treats women as if they were idiots, and *NEWS FLASH* most of them aren't so stupid as to fall for some slick PUA game. Connect with women by finding some common stuff or being interested in what they do and like. Seriously, it's not that f*cking hard.

    Women know EXACTLY what you want and you're not going to trick them into bed, they will only bed you if THEY want to and they're not going to do it if you act like a quick bang is all that matters to you.

    PUAs invariably come across as shallow, desperate pussy-hunters, and if you think women don't/won't/can't pick up on that, you're an idiot. No one says you have to beg for sex or pretend you're Joe Alpha Male...just be nice, treat them decently, and you'll be surprised at how many women will give you a shot.

    If quick sex is your only objective, you have a sad little life and women will avoid you like the plague.

    Take it from a guy who dated for 35+ years, your "awesome" PUA techniques are a joke.

    I eventually married a lovely Cambodian lady 20 years younger than me :) and we're going on 8 years happily married now. Stop listening to PUA, they just make you look like pathetic, desperate idiots. And if you use any of these PUA techniques then you ARE a pathetic, desperate idiot.

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  35. I see this is dated 2012 but just stumbled upon this. I was just reading Roosh and his forum for perspectives on the modern dating. These guys on the forum and Roosh have this "mentality" they discourage marriage as guys and if you do so you are a "beta" male, yet they damn women who are 30 and not married? With women it is damned if you do and damned if you don't. How are they supposed to get married if these same guys refuse to get married themselves? Hypocritcal losers.

    Oh and this Roosh is always claiming he will not have sex a woman over 25, yet... http://i.imgur.com/4SU24.png so that is proof he is full of bullshit. And I have seen him call women of that body type fat.

    And Rooshers bluff at the consent for sex culture, getting a woman so inebriated she can't stand straight is not rape and she deserved it because she is a "slut" and they have rights to sex because she did not say "no" It hits too close to home because that is how they get laid the majority of the time, if they even do.

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  36. Hopefully you will do an update on this sociopath as all things Roosh has hit the mainstream in the last week.

    Good to see the universal condemnation of this...what shall I call it, because it certainly is not a man in my understanding of the concept.
    There is no animal I wish to insult,so I suppose it is human, but really does anyone sane want to own it as one of their species,

    Lets just call him Roosh, missing the numbers 1 2 3 and 4.

    One wonders if they were earlier prototypes that still resembled one of our species, so had to be sent back for more bigotry and idiocy genes...

    And yes I am being insulting to this 'creature', it is simply, the very least he deserves, he is a contaminant.

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