Response to a Concern Troll: Alpha Status vs Socio Economic Status

When I was busy pummeling the PUA industry, trolls and shills were adorably cute. Their comments consisted of one-liners, personal attacks, or exaggerated praise of their master. Of course, their contributions often were in poor English, which indicated outsourcing to some guy in the Third World via sites like ODesk. Bullshit like that was annoying because it meant clicking "spam" over and over. For some time there was an RSD shill who commented "what the fuck is this shit" on several of my posts, which made me chuckle as it was precisely the kind of fake "alpha" posturing a guy like RSD's Jeffy promotes. The more eloquent trolls and shills I addressed in the comment section, which led to some hilarious exchanges.

Now that I occasionally tackle some topics that are more serious than making fun of PUAs who don't get laid, I seem to attract a much different kind of troll. A shining example is "Peter" who claims that Muslims are more "alpha" than German men and thus get all ze German women. His comment originally appeared on my brief post on the main cast of the TV show Entourage.

Here it is in full:

Aaron, of course female hypergamy only applies to things that would have mattered in our distant past, like violence, aggression, muscles, height, dominant personality. IQ doesn't make the cut - it's why women prefer douchebags in the West not doctors or nerds. Arabs, being douchier than the douchiest Westerner, are clearly far more desirable to Western females. 

As for why Arabs attack women, that's just how Alphas act - they go after what they want when they want. They don't bother with courtship. They know very well the German police won't prosecute them. It's just a more extreme version of the kind of thing you've written about doing in nightclubs, Aaron, where you just go up to a girl and take her. We've all admired you for your Alpha boldness in those stories, where you just did not give a shit and showed her whose boss. Trust me, German women are now far more attracted to Arabs after the attacks consolidated their Alpha status. 

Besides, how many of those women's complaints were legit? Women like to make shit up to absolve themselves from blame, we see this in the US all the time. 

Aaron, I know that you're an intellectual and it must irk you that women only respond to factors that mattered before intellectuals existed, and that this makes you less Alpha than a poor, low class Arab immigrant who is able to boldly take women with little frar of German police, but denying the not so pretty reality of Darwinian evolution wont make it go away.

This post had me in stitches. I love it when people think they really, really know something although they are utterly clueless. Dunning-Kruger is a bitch. Hypergamy by definition refers to class, so let's have some fun with Peter.

There are several ways to tear his comment apart. I will focus on empiricism and logic. In the 1970s, Germany took in a great many Muslims from Turkey whose numbers only increased over the years. These days there are roughly three million of them in the country. In their culture there is a tendency for marrying their cousins, which leads to all kinds of problems, and eventually results in a rather negligible contribution to the economy. Overall, they perform incredibly poorly in high school, trade school, and at university. Many achieve great welfare careers, though. It's not at all uncommon that young Muslims of that ethnicity live off welfare in the third generation. Overall, the Turks in Germany probably cost the German taxpayer half a trillion Euros or so in four decades. It's ludicrous.

You can probably guess where this is going. Those people exhibit the same "alpha" qualities Peter attributes to the uncivilized hordes from the Middle East that have been invading Germany. Yet, they are arguably the least attractive sexual partners for Western women. There is only a very small number of German women who engage with Turks of that milieu: white trash that lives off welfare. This is quite easy to explain. In general, women want their partner to be at least of the same socio-economic status (SES), but preferably he should have higher SES. If you are a male fuck-up with no skill or education, barely literate but absolutely unemployable, what kind of woman will you date? What kind of woman would want to be part of your glorious welfare lifestyle? You certainly won't land a female doctor. Instead, your pool are other welfare recipients, which you probably meet while getting drunk in public.

In the case of female welfare queens your options are likewise limited. Anyone with a steady income is unlikely to associate with you, so your best chance will be to stick to your own kind. But now Ali with his IQ of 75 and nine years of formal education is not so unattractive anymore. His competition consists of Kevin who is just as smart as Ali but probably a bigger pussy because he has a somewhat better command of German which means that he got indoctrinated at school to some extent. Ali knows less than 500 words of German and didn't pay any attention to his teachers anyway, so his alpha attitudes remained unchallenged. In that case, I readily believe that young Jacqueline is just as willing to take Ali's dick, if not more so. What else is she going to do anyway? In her line of work Ali is just as successful as Kevin as they both milk the government for everything they can. Jaqueline and Ali are a match made in heaven.

More generally, societies are rather segregated. Your friends and neighbors are very likely to have a similar SES. In many cases you probably either don't know where people of a different SES even hang out, or if you know it, you wouldn't be able to get access because you don't have the amount of time and money that would be required to hang out with them, or you would lack the required connections. A woman wanting to meet a man below her SES, say a middle-class white girl with a university education looking for an unskilled Muslim who lives off welfare and deals drugs, would need to enter an entirely different culture. Even if those two would somehow meet: how on earth, Peter, do you think this would pan out? Do you think she'll introduce such an "alpha" to her friends and family? How thrilled to you think her lawyer father will be if his lovely Octavia tells him, "Oh, don't worry, dad, Muhammad has a great future ahead of him. The government will increase welfare by 2 % next year, and in addition he is busy building a great second income stream via dealing weed and Vicodine."

The only women such guys can get are low-class. There may be the occasional brainwashed lefty who thinks she can rid herself of German Guilt by taking a low-class brute as a partner but if that even happens it is certainly rare. Alpha? Not so much.

What do you think? Let me know in the comments below!

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