hey, check out the passage from a great book "models:attraction through honesty" by mark manson. This is by far the most discerning, exposing and explaining book about game!
i think the author gets it wrong! mark manson says there are 3 types of girls:
1.girls who are into you from start - aka green zone
2. girls who maybe into you if you show great personality and seduce them - aka grey zone
3. girls who are not into you at all - red zone.
in this book , the point of game is to bang girls from grey zone!
girls that into you from the beginning - are easy to get! the point of game is to show that you are attractive to all greyzone girls, potential leads. if your game is good you can bang more girls from this area.
ofcourse it is easy to fuck a girl who is into you - you escalate! but true game is about seducing girls who are not into you , but find you cool after you run game on them!
We've discussed Mark Manson before. Suffice it to say that there are quite a few guys among my followers who told me that it took them a while to realize that he is peddling "feel-good" advice instead of dishing out some harsh truths. Well, once you are past needing to feel good about your insufficiencies and got ready for some realistic dating advice, check out my material instead.
The comment above is of course rather poorly written. It does, however, highlight a dubious mentality among PUAs, namely that they should work on any girl that does not straight away tell them to fuck off. As a consequence, they collect numbers, and think that it's a matter of their "game" whether they can get the girl, not realizing that there is a reason the number he got was fake, that she never picks up the phone, or, if she meets up, tries to extract money from him.
Among PUAs there is also the bizarre idea that "game" is supposed to be difficult. Bang a chick who is into you --- and it supposedly doesn't count because it's a "fool's mate". Instead, it's quite likely that they can't handle the rare girl who is sexually interested in them and therefore chicken out. This is related to people who read a lot but never take any action. If a girl is into some PUA, for whatever bizarre reason, he suddenly has to take the lead, and he knows that he can now easily fuck it up. I saw PUAs literally falling apart when a girl immediately showed sexual interest, and the cause was of course that they now had to perform --- for real. In comparison, there is apparently great comfort in mechanically approaching women and never getting anywhere because this allows people to keep her deluded self-image of being Don Juans in training.
Arguably the biggest issue with "grey zone" women is that a sexually inexperienced guy, which includes the vast majority of the PUA community, is unable to tell when a girl is not at all interested but merely friendly. A "red zone" girl would tell him to fuck off, but what he perceives to be a "grey zone" girl is all-too-often just a "red zone" girl who had a good upbringing and therefore is polite. That's all there is to it. He may delude himself that he can "build rapport" via text messages, and eventually get her to realize how alpha he is, even though he is a fucking joke. In the end, he is only wasting his time.
Real "grey zone" girls are girls who are interested in you in principle, but, for whatever reason, are currently not available. Let's say she is in a relationship, or going through a breakup, or has a tough exam coming up, or has to leave for a longer business trip tomorrow, or needs to finish some B.S. project at work, or happens to be an accountant and is in the middle of "busy season", or she is having her best friend, who happens to live abroad, stay at her place for a week or so [everything drawn from personal experience]. All of those are perfectly legitimate reasons why she is currently (!) not available. Once her circumstances change, you may very well be the first in line to get a shot at getting her. A good indication that she might be a genuine "grey zone" girls is that she shows some affection/sexual interest and gives you a concrete time frame, e.g. "I'll be back in town next Friday". Stay in touch, exchange the occasional flirty message if you want, and from then on it should be rather smooths sailing. But of course there is always something that may come up. She may meet her personal 11/10, just as well as you may meet a woman you find roughly as attractive as her but who has the advantage that she is currently available --- and there is arguably something to be said for getting laid right now instead of possibly getting laid in two weeks, so you end up with a new fuck buddy and forget about that hot chick you met the other week that would come back at the end of the month. That's just life.
Viewing "grey zone" girls as "green zone" girls who are temporarily unavailable is arguably a much better guideline than fantasizing that any woman who wasn't hostile to can be turned around if only your game was better. Alas, as with so many things I write, this will be obvious to those who are successful with women, while the cucks and betas tend to think my writing is just another flavor of mental masturbation. Thus, I invite all cucks who are reading this to make some notes about the number of "grey zone" girls they met and whether they have gotten any of them. It's tough arguing with numbers. Then again, in that corner of the internet, people boast about how hard working they are and think that a few hundred cold approaches that led to one or two dates that led to nothing, not even blue balls because the chicks were fugly, is something to be proud of.
Of course, if I wanted to sell more books, I would target losers and tell them that if they only studied "game" hard enough, they could turn
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