Since I get a relatively high number of comments that are tangential to
the articles, I'd like to try to move those parts of the conversation to
the monthly 'Open Thread'.
In short, if you think anything you're going to write is "off topic" to
the current post, but still related to pickup, women, gender politics
and other topics I discuss on this blog, then please leave a comment to
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What do you think of Lucid dreaming? Full virtual reality technology doesn't yet,and it may or may not be created in our lifetime but fortunately,lucid dreaming is already a way to accomplish that. Of course,it takes practice and patience to learn,but its not a difficult skill to learn with the right info(in my experience)and its a far better/more reliable pursuit than having some hopeless PUA cold approach 5000 women.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure I get the point of lucid dreaming, to be honest. I have had lucid dreams, but it's not something I care enough about to actively trigger. I don't quite see how this would relate to picking up women. Lucid dreams, just like regular dreams, aren't real, and -- who woulda thunk? --- even VR sex isn't real. VR sex/porn could be a genuine paradigm shift, though, as it supposedly tricks your brain to believing that it is real. Then again, VR seems to be little more than hype. Neither the Oculus Rift nor the HTC Vive have taken off, and actual user reports are a far cry from the two or three years of hype in the enthusiast press, so let's not get our hopes up too soon. The Japanese are working hard on creating sex robots, by the way, which are supposed to be better than the real thing. I believe it when I see it, so for the time being we have to stick with real women, for better or worse. I would not be surprised if we see custom sex robots within the next then years. There are easily tens of thousands of otakus who would pay a lot of money for a Hatsune Miku or I/A-lookalike fuck robot. The potential is certainly there:
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFTfJnkYS8A
In all seriousness, the combination of a sex robot with VR will wreck the dating scene. Enough guys don't go to hookers because of the alleged stigma associated with it, or because it's illegal in their state or country. But a sex robot... It's probably not surprising that feminists are already pushing for a ban, even though none of this really exists yet.
The point of lucid dreaming? For me as of now,its the same point as why we want to have full VR. Its wish/fantasy fulfillment and the ability to do what is impossible. Flying for instance,is something I've always wanted to do,and thanks to learning lucid dreaming,I'm able to do it and words can't describe how wonderful it feels.
DeleteSome people have pursued deeper philosophies with lucid dreaming,although I haven't gone there yet as I'm only a beginner who is just looking for some fun. You can watch this video as it explains in better detail than I could.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QazcQJOEW90
(she has her own website too,you can check it out if you want to learn more.)
For those of us today who want to experience full VR but don't want to wait for VR tech to be perfected(which again,may or may not happen anytime soon)and don't want to go to the risk of using psychedelic drugs,Lucid dreaming is the only alternative that I know of right now. Its not real,but it definitely FEELS real,which is the point.
As for how this relates to PUA,I'm sure you will agree that there "hopeless cases" (i.e body deformities or mental issues,etc.)in the dating scene. Instead of having them chasing after a hopeless pursuit or settling for someone they are not attracted to at all,I feel this is the best alternative for such people. or it could simply be for an ordinary man who dreams of fucking models way beyond his league. anyone interested in VR will benefit from learning this.
I agree,if VR or sex robots are ever perfected,the tides would turn. maybe then, a lot of stuck up women will learn to behave better. although honestly,I can't imagine sex robots ever being better than VR hotties. (you can now fuck your favorite anime character,that will definitely attract a lot of attention)
Yep, and then combine this with artifical wombs. The combo will wreck female narcissism and destroy the market.
DeleteInteresting point about artificial wombs. I recall femmies loved loved loved the idea of creating artificial sperm...e.g. "Men are useless and redundant because science can manufacture sperm."
DeleteOf course the same science and technology can make artificial wombs...which I am sure the femmies will seek to outlaw and demonize.
You know,despite all this talk about how the creation of VR and sex robots would wreck female narcissism/entitlement,wouldn't all this benefit women as well? Both the ugly and the plain janes will finally fulfill their fantasy of being with their favorite rockstar celebrity,or whatever (of course,the will have to overlook the fact their relationship is but a fantasy created by virtual reality,but I think many will choose this over "settling". the important thing is that it FEELS real after all.)
DeleteIndeed,I believe these things will wreck the sexual market place,but the "unfortunates" will finally be relieved of their frustrations,which I believe is a good thing.
That's an interesting point. However, women consume less pornography than men, even though it's certainly not zero. As a consequence, VR porn will benefit men more than women.
Deletetom bradden,
Deleteartificial sperm seems a lot less likely than artificial wombs, and not just because there are not a lot of high caliber female scientists around, compared to men. The future may very well be in non-sexual procreation due to cloning and genetic manipulation, though, at which point you could run society entirely without women.
Um, excuse me, female scientists would abound but for sexism...er, that's the impression I get from this message from vox.com...
Deletehttp://www.vox.com/2016/7/7/12105830/nettie-stevens-genetics-gender-sex-chromosomes
@SAG44 - it's a lot easier to simulate porn-style banging you favorite celeb, than it is to simulate a relationship.
DeleteIn other words, making a convincing simulation of "a one night stand with megan fox" will come MANY decades earlier than a full on simulation for women about "Ashton Kutcher is in love with me and we have an amazing relationship".
The latter is magnitudes more complex to simulate realistically.
It's an impossibility as a matter of fact. As a dude you would be fine banging surreally good-looking anime chicks in VR that give you the most raging boner of your life, while some robot head with three tongues makes you cum so hard you are afraid you're damaging it. On the other hand, the perfect illusion for a woman would be a hot young billionaire showering her in attention and money, and one she can show off in real life. Spending $50k on a high-end simulation of a billionaire version of Ashton Kutcher won't quite work because he won't come out of the screen and shower Jane Plain with a couple mill'.
Deletelol! You both make really good points. I suppose the best thing for those less-than-fortunate-women of today is to either settle with someone reasonable,or give up romance altogether and pursue hobbies instead (Men can do this and be happy as long as they have a sexual outlet,but I'm not sure if most women can do this and be happy.)
DeleteDidn't you mention once creating a second blog for politics and world events? Does it exist?
ReplyDeleteIt'll come eventually.
DeleteI'm pretty sure Sleazy is already on it. The format of delivery might be a litte bit different!
DeleteOpinion on Brexit ?
ReplyDeleteYes, I have one. Let's see whether I'll find the time to write something down in the near future.
DeleteAny updates on the club game kindle release?
ReplyDeleteIt's as good as done. I only need to submit it to Amazon. I still have a lot on my plate, but as soon as I have a relatively free weekend, I'll make Club Game available for Kindle.
DeleteDo you think "rich ugly men" should stick to banging good quality escorts/hookers instead of participating in the dating game? I imagine most women will be unwilling to have a fuckbuddy relationship with them and those men will be forced into sugar-daddy type relationships if they want a chance at having sex with them.
ReplyDeleteMost importantly however,I don't know if a woman can fall in love with a man without physical attraction. after all,no use in being in a relationship with someone who doesn't really love you (for many obvious reasons)
If this isn't just a hypothetical question, then consider booking a consultation session since I can't answer this in detail on the blog. I've advised several men in that category.
DeleteYour intuition is correct. The attraction she feels will be for your wallet. That being said, money does give an "ugly rich man" a leg up, and if there are no gold diggers around, there are always hookers and escorts. Lastly, keep in mind that there are a lot of good-looking rich men who pay hookers and escorts for their services, for which they have very good reasons.
Yes,its just like what charlie sheen said "I dont pay for sex,I pay them to leave"
DeleteI find myself uninterested in dating in general,I recently had to cut off a stage 5 clinger because she tried pressuring me into marriage and children even after multiple refusals(she was cheating on her wimp boyfriend for me btw while doing this,ugh!) you've had that happen to you before? haha. yeah,I can definitely understand why many desirable men still choose not to play the dating game/go MGTOW,haha.
Based on my very limited experience with dating,you're right that women can introduce chaos into your life. I honestly don't see myself going back to the dating scene anytime soon(especially after everything I've learned through both research and experience. women aren't exactly the angels that beta orbiter men mistake them to be) I've got lots of hobbies I prefer spending my time on.
@AnonymousJuly 9, 2016 at 3:27 AM
DeleteGreat lines - "I don't pay for sex,I pay them to leave" and "women aren't exactly the angels that beta orbiter men mistake them to be"
Words to remember indeed!
I've read both your books: Minimal Game and Club Game. You suggest to pick a target market for women and dress yourself to attract them. However, what if you don't have a type of a woman in mind? What if you're attracted to all types? Any resources you could recommend on fashion?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the support. Your first question deserves its own post. Stay tuned.
DeleteBoth Minimal Game and Club Game mention enough about fashion to get you started.
I just stumbled upon this debate at a feminist's blog. It makes for a fun reading. I am "womanizer" in the debate.
ReplyDeleteNotice how she suspiciously resembles the troll we had over here. Where a "supposed guy" came to tell us that if you just drop the ego and apply woo-woo energy women will throw themselves at you. He also claimed to have banged 500 women, with no effort whatsover.
Link here
Just skimming that chick's replies to you gave me a head ache. It's impossible to have a discussion with such people because for some reason they take everything personal and dish out ad hominems like there is no tomorrow. She's an educated idiot and exemplifies everything that is wrong with tertiary education.
DeleteIt's classic case study in the gaslighting that feminists put young men through. I feel sorry for young men without a mentor.
DeleteThey have the choice between two equally ridiculous insanities. The PUA approach on the one hand. And then the feminist woo-woo bullshit on the other hand.
Few boys will ever stumble around these parts when searching for answers.
Opinion on the new sexual criminal law in Germany which is recently discussed over social media?
DeleteSteven,
Deletethat topic would be too specific to discuss it in greater detail on the blog. Further, I haven't followed the debate in greater detail. I may have not fully grasped the main idea, but wasn't it about making it easier to prosecute those Taharush-style sexual attacks that have become common now that over a million more muslims have flooded the country. My first thought was that surely leftist German judges will excuse those poor tortured souls who molest, rob and steal in some other ways. How about, "Mohammed Muzzy doesn't understand German so he couldn't have known that the verbal objection of his victim to his attempted rape was actually a manifestation of her disapproval."
Skimming through the comments as well. (Eventually the layout of the blog made it pretty hard to read here).
DeleteAnd yeah she is not interested in any debate. Just echo chambers. Just look at the personal attacks. (By herself, on her own blog... by somebody just disagreeing (with a bit of a questionable username, granted) nice pr work there. Damn she is a cunt.)
But the main reason I wanted to comment, think she is missing one obvious point about 'women who make the first move' in my experience most of these women are of lower value than you are. So what she is saying, if you are a 5, give the 2's who approach you a chance.
@Anonymouse - Exactly...
DeleteAnd I don't think it's a coincidence. Let's see... feminists (who are on average 2s and 3s) are pushing a specific dating-strategy on inexperienced men as being the only "correct one". In fact they go out of their way to shame and bully men into using this dating strategy.
Then you look at the strategy and you think... If one were to follow this strategy, he would only end up dating twos and threes? Coincidence?
A group of twos and threes trying to push legislation and educational programs that make it more likely for them to mate... Complete and utter coincidence.
Are these gaslighters ever capable of not showering you with shaming and attacks if you challenge their little narrative. Feminists have a very vested interest in keeping guys in the "reserves".
ReplyDeletehttp://www.iflscience.com/brain/do-women-really-go-bad-boys-here-s-science-settles-question/
Notice the top comment.
I don't see any comment. Where do I need to look/click ?
DeleteScroll down below the story, the facebook comments module should appear after a few seconds.
DeleteHi Alek,I know you and Aaron are in the business of exposing PUA's,so I must ask,is this guy really Roissy/Heartiste?:
Deletehttps://tcdh.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/roissy.jpg
He...actually isn't bad looking at all. If its true that he barely ever gets laid,then that speaks volumes about "game." (or more specifically,street cold approaching)
On the other hand,Roissy really seems to do an excellent job of exposing beta male behavior(read his "beta of the month/year contest" posts,here's a good example: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/beta-of-the-month-on-bended-knees-forever/)
I'm really curious about this roissy character,because I used to frequently read his blog. There's definitely a lot of BS on it,but also some small gems of truth to be found there(mainly his take on marriage and his exposition of beta males)
As far as I know, this is indeed Roissy. Note that I don't know him in person. I think he is well above average in terms of looks. Considering that he works in DC, allegedly in a cushy six-figure job, it is safe to say that he is "gaming" himself out of getting laid.
DeleteHey,do you guys know the safest/best way to reject a woman? In my personal experience,most women do not handle rejection well,even if its subtle and polite. I'm lucky enough to not have experienced the truly dangerous-crazy cases(yet..)but I have experienced the ones who have turned hostile/passive aggressive after ignoring their "signals" for so long,and even one case where an ugly woman outright cold approached me(yes,she was using mainstream PUA methods,like DHV'ing,negging,and asked for my number in the end. haha!)
ReplyDeleteShould you lie and say you have a girlfriend/fiance,are gay,or even go as far as to say you've got an STD? I'd really just like to avoid trouble. of course,its even more difficult if they happen to be people you have to deal with on a regular basis. (i.e Coworkers or classmates)
Lying, since your business isn't their business. Telling the truth, since you don't care what she thinks and nothing she can say could make you interested. Don't supply them with any personal information about yourself, your night, your plans, ect. Simply be unavailable, taken, or treat her like most cold approaches would treat you. Or just be friends.
DeleteJust act like nothing happened. They get over it, within 2days, up to 2 weeks.
DeleteAnon,
Deleteit depends on the context. I've used all of the following:
- pretending I don't speak her language, or only really broken English ("What you want? I'm sorry, I not understand.")
- pretend you didn't even hear her; works fine in a club, so you just happen to turn away as she approaches you
- go to the bathroom
- never ask any questions
- don't bask in the attention you're getting but instead just walk off again (example: chick loitering around the water cooler and trying to drum up a conversation every time you walk past)
- tell her you have a gf, but not like bitchy bitches do it ("How was your weekend?" "Fine. Was just chilling with my gf." vs. "I have a boyfriend!")
- be really obnoxious, e.g. say that you've fucked two chicks this week already and now just want to enjoy a relaxed evening at this bar
- be even more obnoxious, e.g. randomly mention your gf/chick you're banging, pull up your phone, go through your gallery and pick a pic of your girl, and say something like, "She's cute, isn't she?" Obviously, this only works if your girl is more attractive than the chic hitting on you. (I did this once when I had to deal with an obnoxious 5 or 6 who thought she was a ten, and just wouldn't leave me alone. She walked off with a shattered ego, which was exactly what she needed.)
Thoughts on Jennifer Ansiton's body shaming/woman shaming essay? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/for-the-record_us_57855586e4b03fc3ee4e626f?0830ynt7rezmpldi
ReplyDeleteI think she makes some fair points, but her other points are rather weak, especially in the context of her life.
First, the complaint that there are other issues that journalists should be reporting on rather than celebrities. That's interesting, since she tends to star in movies that are neither artistic nor entertaining, but I don't hear her saying that Hollywood should produce more artistic and thematic films, which cinematographer Roger Deakins has been heard saying (and who's filmography speaks for itself).
So if she is able to reap the benefit of "empty" art, why shouldn't others reap the benefit of "empty" journalism? Not to mention that the system of tabloid journalism does provide benefit to her by keeping her in the light, and there's such a surplus of journalists that it's oddly normal that they would have time to report on celebrity dealings, especially in a country where few care to read about other subjects.
Of course, this skims over the fact that the worst she has to deal with in life is tabloid journalists and pregnancy rumors while others are dealing with financial ruin at the hands of bankers. The contradiction in her essay there is astounding. I agree that people shouldn't have to be treated poorly at all, but this whole "women speaking out against social issues that really are just a nuisance more than anything" BS is tiring, especially when others you meet and at university bring it up as if it is noteworthy.
Why spend all this energy on Tumblr and speak out for treatment that barely makes a difference in your quality of life when you could spend time doing more useful shit, like voting or art or something.
On a side note, the whole "body shaming" movement in America is quite hilarious. Women seem to be speaking out against body shaming more so to justify their already fat bodies, rather than speak out against the difficulty of maintaining a healthy physique (hint to them: it's not that hard).
Hell, most men here are more than willing to deal with their girlfriend's already fat bodies, as long as it's slimmer than the others, which isn't saying much. A lot of men already don't care about a girls weight and are just happy to get laid.
But all in all, I don't hear any fitness girls complaining about body shaming? I can only imagine the horror feminists must feel when they discover a niche of women actually enjoy looking beautiful and living healthy. Oh wait, it's right here: http://www.people.com/article/liz-krueger-wedding-dress
I'd recommend searching her name on Facebook and reading the comments. The majority is women finding ways to harass and insult her. #bodyshaming Jennifer Aniston? Right?
But maybe I'm full of shit too, let me know. Sorry for the essay.
Tl;DR: Jennifer Aniston wrote a hypocritical article condemning celebrity culture which she profits from, while showing support for the hypocritical movement against "body shaming" that women seem to only follow when it suits them.
My god, people with an IQ of 80 are allowed to write articles as if they are intellectuals nowadays ? Next time it will be Kim Kardashian on Plato's philosophy ?
DeleteYou are right, she is so hypocritical. If these dumb paparazzi were not taking all these pictures of her, she would fall into oblivion immediately.
Also, where the fuck does she see that women are portrayed in the media as if they are nothing without a man and children ?? Everyday I have to read the opposite propaganda that women are oh so strong and they oh don't need a man. If you dare saying that a woman should stay at home taking care of the house and the children, you are immediately ostracized.
Honestly I don't know who's more guilty about the rotten state of western societies : men or women ? I put the blame on the thirsty betas. Who's to blame when a child is doing stupid things : the child or the parents ? Or when a dog behaves very badly : the dog or the laxist owner ? I think we all know the answer.
When someone is incompetent, we simply don't allow them to have any kind of power, but we keep them under tutelage.
this playboy playmate is getting flamed for body shaming someone, LOL:
Deletehttps://ca.style.yahoo.com/post/147401324375/body-shaming-playmate-of-the-year-is-also-jerk-of
In similar retarded news, it was "bad" for this tenor to sing "all lives matter" instead of "black lives matter". Cos apparently, only black lives matter.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/wynne-parade-lives-1.3680008
Aaron, what do you think of Blackdragon's bullshit ?
ReplyDeleteThe dude pretends he is such a boss that absolutely nothing bothers him (a girl he fucks could suck another guy in front of him and he pretends to be like "yeah, whatever, she is free to do whatever she wants") and also that absolutely every girl he fucks is totally infatuated with him so 94% of them eventually comes back to him after a break-up (soft or hard). (Dude, just think about it, 94%...) And of course he is promoting his open relationship bullshit everywhere on his blog like it's the panacea.
I think he is insecure and therefore needs to overcompensate. When he first showed up on mASF years ago he made an impression on impressionable losers, while others viewed him and his advice rather critical. But if you are a simp, then spamming chicks online is easier than real life pickup. Something that is now probably difficult to find online nowadays, considering that mASF has disappeared, is that his 'real' online game was exposed. In reality, he highlighted his economic success --- he more or less mentioned in every other post that he was making 100k a year and lives in house --- and specifically went after chicks who made less. On mASF, though, he left that part out.
DeleteThere was some other nonsense, too. Among others, I recall a post of his in which he claimed that the women he pulls online look better in real life than on pictures, which is a downright absurd statement, as anybody who has had more than a couple of dates from online game can confirm.
There was also an incredible amount of naivety in some of his posts, particular with regards to politics and economics. For instance, one of his favorite recommendations was to move to Asia, which culminated in a statement that whatever job you have at home you'd have there as well, so there would be no issue at all (yeah, right).
just playing devil's advocate here but what do you think of blackdragon's open relationship approach? He may very well have a point,humans(both men and women)sexually desire more than one person and often lose attraction to their mates in the long term,which is why cheating is such a rampant problem. BD wants to minimize drama in his life so this is the approach he follows.
DeleteBTW,although BD isn't much of a seducer,he is undoubtedly financially successful,what do you think of his book recommendations here:
http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2014/02/09/18-useful-18-books-ever-read/
Open relationships only work if at least one of the girls has very low self esteem. Feel free to provide evidence to the contrary. Hint: women are fiercely competitive with each other; sharing a guy would be something they may agree on if you're extremely high status in comparison to her. So, you better be George Clooney, or you are a regular Joe and you don't mind dating women far beneath you.
DeleteI'm not sure how successful he is. Keep in mind that he has the tendency to massive exaggerate his achievements. He probably makes the equivalent of a decent professional salary, which is a decent achievement, no doubt. I read or at least skimmed most of those books. Winning Through Intimidation is good. The title may be off-putting as it appeals to wannabe-Machiavellists, but there is some good stuff in there (and a lot of fluff).
I know of a few open relationships where the girls don't have low self esteem. (In some I even think the dude has LSE, he can react pretty butthurt pretty easily).
DeleteAnd the dudes are not even that high status (nor the girls that low). So yeah, it depends. (I know quite a lot of poly people, most of them seem to date equal status people, with a few guy exceptions (those get a lot more girls obv)).
Which time frame are we talking about? You can certainly see several women in parallel, but eventually it will frustrate them that they are unable to tie you down.
DeleteLow status guys having an open relationships with high status women? Sounds like betas who are taken for a ride to me.
In one case I agree, the guy is paying for her bills. (While he also has girlfriends on the side btw, for which he also pays).
DeleteOther is more that I find the guy low status, but apparently he ticks some liberal/progressive thought leader checkbox for a few girls.
Lets see, these are a 3+ year rel, and a 10+ rel. And some of the more alpha dudes with open rels are indeed like you say, having women that are a bit more frustrated, or only in the first year of a rel and not that open. (I think they both agree on who two open up on).
So yeah, timeframes running from early to long term relationships. My social circle is weird. But I have certainly also seen beta's being taken for a ride. Quite a lot. "we are in a relationship" "ow, yeah we never discussed what the relationship means, and what I'm not allowed to do. So I can make out with other people"
Forgot to mention, talk of being taken advantage of aside, most of the people in these rels do seem happy. With some occasional drama of course. But that happens in a lot of rels. Don't think they have more or less drama than other rels I have seen.
Delete@AnonymousJuly 31, 2016 at 9:11 AM
DeleteI hope those betas are at least getting some physical/sexual benefit out of all this. This kind of arrangement is actually more expensive than seeing multiple escorts/prostitutes.
@AnonymousAugust 1, 2016 at 2:06 AM
DeleteI hope as well. I don't know, I don't ask them how often they get laid.
Hi aaron,what are your thoughts on "strength by sonny?" I only recently discovered this guy(a guy on sluthate recommended him,along with you)
ReplyDeletehere's a link to his website:
http://strengthbysonny.com/2014/02/12/how-to-get-girls-part-i/
It seems he's a self-help guy in general,which includes dating. he is also actively dispelling PUA myths like you are. What really caught my attention is his Law 1 in that specific link. Its learning general social skills before learning seduction. That's something I've always believed as well (there may be some guys who are handsome/rich enough to get away with lacking it,but there's no doubt that learning good social skills will greatly benefit anyone.)
Lastly,I know you gave Chase Amante's book a good review,but how do you feel about the Girlschase website in general? (since chase amante is not the only writer there)
Sonny seems to be a bit too much of a "bro" for me. I skimmed his site about a year ago, and stumbled about some rather absurd bro science, like the suggestion to wear a tooth protector when lifting, when the obvious issue is that you shouldn't clench your teeth in that situation. It's not the kind of site I actively follow, but there surely is some good advice in his writing.
DeleteChase wants to make a living online. Thus, he has to target a larger audience.
My advice is to stay away from Girlschase. Aaron posts a lot of stories of guys from RSD trying to pull out of the PUA sphere because of them realizing that “game” was making their lives hell. For me it was Girlschase, not RSD.
DeleteIf you want a concrete example of a problem with them, one is the idea that game can outperform guys with good looks and "bad game." Another is their belief in NLP.
At first glance, they seem to give good advice, mentioning that you need good fundamentals like looking good, living in a place where you can meet women, knowing it's a numbers game, etc. but they use that as more of a caveat than a hard guideline. They also cloud this good advice with tons of game tactics and social theories, as well as never being to able to make up their minds on whether or not being good looking or rich is the key to success or not.
Not to mention, their authors like to say they don’t believe in the typical PUA advice, but they do. For example, some articles say that you can make up for your poor looks by being a good conversationalist and "giving her the feelings that she wants" in a conversation.
Here is such an article: http://www.girlschase.com/content/sexuality-game-making-her-wet-words
That same author has claimed that Ross Jeffries and Speed Seduction have information worth learning from, he mentions it in the comments of this article here: http://www.girlschase.com/content/sexuality-game-part-ii-word-wizardry
Again, my advice is to stay away from them. If you want to get better with girls invest in a gym membership. And that’s coming from a guy that actually had good success with girls in school beforehand and continued to have some success because I was good looking enough despite following Girlschase's advice. What led me to their site in the first place anyways was a painful breakup and a want for a bit more consistent success with girls, not being bad with girls to begin with.
Unfortunately, following their advice didn’t help with either reason. Instead of cold approaching a thousand times like they advise, you are much better off working out, working on skills that you actually like and want to do, and meeting people from that skill. You honestly can't go wrong that way.
Even their own forum members with experience can't paint the idea of cold approaching as a good one: https://www.girlschase.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12090
100 approaches, 3 dates, no lays? 11 months to get a lay from cold approach? It's absolutely mental. I can't believe what an idiot I was to believe in that crap.
In fact, this was the article from Sleazy that started to snap me out of the same process that thread's author had: http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-cold-approaching-is-pretty-much.html
My bad on the long reply to your question, but there isn't too much info on Girlschase on the blog so I thought to supply a bit more in case others tune in. Basically, the point is their advice will most likely just leave you over analyzing everything while cold approaching strangers on the street.
My experience from girlschase is that most of the useful stuff I got came from articles from other writers not so much chase himself, but I just picked out articles that are relevant to me, unlike a lot of guys that get into PUA I don't read every single article on the site. There isn't a single writer on the site who I've read every single article, although Colt Williams, Ricardus, Hector Castillo and Darius Belajavas have some good articles (at least for me personally, also note I rarely had to go over the 10 free article monthly limit, and even if you do you can still read most of the article just missing the first paragraph or two because of logo in the way)
DeleteFirst, I don't know how anyone can take Colt Williams seriously when he actually recommends Tyler from RSD: http://www.girlschase.com/content/next-level-seduction-pt-1-showing-r-selection
DeleteThe guy is also charging almost $100 for his Tinder advice (he suggests your first message to a girl be song lyrics. I don't even know where he thought that would be a good idea), when the guys on the board have already figured out that it really just comes down to how good you look in your pictures.
Ricardus also advocates cold approaching 100 women on the street with his opener "Are you single?"
I'm not saying you're wrong man, and if their advice helps you then more power to you, I'm just saying when there's so much bad advice surrounding the good advice, why even bother digging through it?
Do you think there will come a time when the "Perfect diet/fat loss pill" will ever be created? (since virtual reality is a possibility,this doesn't seem to be too far fetched,I think...)
ReplyDeleteMost diet supplements today suck,and the ones that do work tend to be dangerous(hence why they became illegal. although this isn't primarily for fat loss,meth is one of the few drugs I know of that truly does work,but obviously its not worth the negative effects)
There already is. It's called exercising. It's all about energy intake vs energy expenditure. If your intake is too high, you'll gain weight. If you want to lose weight, you have to eat less than your body otherwise needs so that your fat depots will slowly get depleted.
Deletediet isnt just about fat-loss.
Deleteeating less calories is a good damn step, especially cutting "harmful,useless" ones. follow this and your diet will get cleaner with less waste.
Anybody reading neal strauss his new book about 'the truth' doing a 180 about his whole game thing.
ReplyDeleteI just started but damn, it is filled all the socially acceptable bs. Poly women who are not crazy don't exist. The only way to a good relationship is no lying ever. Going to escorts dehumanizes them. Etc.
Once again, I get the feeling which I get a lot when reading stuff written by Americans. Americans can't do something normal. It is filled with all kinds of extremes. He cheats on his gf, and feels like shit. So... he checks himself into a sex addiction clinic. Where they put him on suicide watch.
The dude is such a drama queen, and I doubt most of it has even really happened. (Not because crazy shit doesn't happen btw, but I don't really trust Strauss).
Reading further in it. Damn what a load of shit. Of course he has brain damage that causes the sex addiction, it is caused by his mom being a narcissist (gosh, wasn't that popular a few years ago in the manosphere), of ofcourse his girlfriend has also have parental problems.
DeleteAnd just as laughable as when roosh said in his books that he got a success rate of 1 in 3 women. Is the constant barrage of women strauss doesn't know who keep sending him emails and text messages with nude pics and suggestions that he'd fuck them.
And it is so clearly written towards the nerdy part of the pua/manosphere people. To blue pill them again so to say. It even has a quote from terry pratchet in it.
I'm constantly reminded of the 'secret king' gamma thing voxday is so fond off.
Whats your opinion on Sam Harris (if you have any)? Personally, I have a hard time disagreeing with him on any topic (except maybe his views on morality, but I didn't think that through enough to be honest).
ReplyDeleteHe seems like an interesting person, but I haven't spent any time studying his work.
DeleteHey Aaron,I'd like your thoughts on this:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-35713.html
The video disgusts me,and the most telling part of it is at 5:30 when the guy tries to go for the kiss and chick gives him the cheek and a hug(although she did give him a peck on the lips immediately after,probably a pity kiss)
Of course,maybe we're making assumptions here. its possible that they really are "getting it on" in private (or so the uploader claims. I still think his actions are inherently beta,especially considering the woman's reactions.)
Lastly,here's another story. I think you'll find it interesting:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-44321.html
Thanks for those links. The first video was painful to watch, not just for the ending. In general, giving expensive gifts is complete beta behavior, apart from the fact that it is fiscally highly irresponsible behavior. Filming yourself like that guy did it is a fantastic way to show the world what a putz you are. He'll have great fun with that video in a few years as at least one of the following invariably happen, based on the dynamics shown in the video:
Delete- she'll cut off sex/physical affection even more
- she'll get fat (seems slightly overweight already)
- she'll get bitchier (bitchy already)
- she'll leave him
I just had a brief loo at the other post. It seems to be entertaining, so I put it on my to-read list.