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It's been weeks since I've last checked comments on my blog or followed the seduction community because real life just keeps me too busy, but I've got some material for great posts lined up already. Now I only have to find the time to write them.

My post on Vince Kelvin turned out to draw a lot of attention. I also got the usual barrage of emails full of faulty logic and incoherent thoughts, such as that I was racist in my statements and that I was deliberately trying to piss off some people. Truth hurts, which means that if you are Vince Kelvin and can't stand the heat, then just don't enter the f*cking kitchen.

Updates on Sleazy Stories for Kindle

Amazon has updated its Kindle Stores. This means that you can now buy Sleazy Stories for the following prices:

Amazon US Kindle store: $0.99

Amazon UK Kindle Store: £0.71

Amazon German Kindle Store: €0.79

This is great news because previously the pricing seemed to vary a lot, with some people reporting up to $3.44, which was also irritating because my share of the revenue remained the same, and Amazon simply pocketed an additional $2.50.

Vince Kelvin, the Joke is on you!

While going through my backlog of emails, I came across a hilarious video filmed in Los Angeles, home to the "Casanova Crew", which describes itself as the "largest active pick up artist community in North America". There was a time when they made more modest claims, and I'm sure by the rate the ego of their administrator J The Ripper is growing, he will soon claim to run the biggest forum in the universe.

The video is a collage of impressions from a talk given by "Vince Kelvin". Here's the link to those nine minutes of unintentional humor, but maybe you want to skip ahead and read my commentary first.

Metropolis Season 8, Ep. 2 - Pick Up Artists from Joshua Kun on Vimeo.

The link to the video was sent by James (thanks!). He commented:

I think this video might be better than ASS because its actually real with Vince Kelvin.

Guys are so easily impressed by nothing.. enjoy

RSD cool with date rape

I recently received a hilarious email from Jon, and the title was catchy, too, so I had no choice but to check out the link he sent me. His comment was, "This is actually the most fucked up thing I have seen on a forum." Well, I have seen many fucked up things on forums, and the most shocking was a "rape report" on misogynists anonymous, er, mASF called LR : Hottie Hardcore LMR day2 in which a user named "gruenfeld" boasts about overcoming 100s of objections, only to have his cock greeted by a completely dry pussy.

Just look at this:

We literally explored the whole area of bed while I wrestle with her. Kept on
pinning her down. My penis is not hard enough to force it yet. She's twisting
her legs to prevent entry. She wants me to be on fire. Her hands on my hands to
keep from fingering her. Finally, I succeeded on fingering her. All this time
she kept saying no. Heard it about a hundred times.

Fingered her, she tried escaping and getting off bed. For the first time in my
life I experienced hardcore LMR. She kept on saying "Stop! Please! it hurts!
no! NO!" I just kept on thinking TD pinning his GF. She wants it.

After this historic lesson, let's fast forward to Real Social Dynamics in 2011.

Jon had only given me the actual link, but the title of the thread was already embarrassing enough. It is, Lie your way inside a womans vagina (People with morals DO NOT READ).

Frankly, after skimming the first few paragraphs I thought that "Fingerman" can't be serious. Just look at his guide to pulling a "retarded, drunk and fucking hot 18 years old":

Once you pulled her away from the friends, made out, and have a somewhat chill vibe going on (takes 15 -30mins), you say "this bar sucks, lets go to another bar". If she wants to know where it is, you say 2 min walk. If she has to get her coat, you guys go get the coat, if she has to say bye to her friends, you tell her what to say and hope to god that it's gonna work. If she refuses, you didnt do the first part right.

Once youre out, walk 2 blocks away from the bar. get in a cab and go to your house. If she objects, say its too cold/hot to walk./ Its just 5 min/i just wanna kiss/ can we kiss?/ ignore what she says and physically force her. If you cant verbally and physically dominate a drunk 18 yo girl that likes you, please kill yourself.

To get inside your house, tell her you need to get money before you guys go to the bar. Once inside, quickly take off your coat and shoes and put on some music, dim lights and pour yourseld a drink. In 1 min or less. Start making out, tell her youre gonna make her visit. Quickly take her to your room and if she says anything while you take off all your clothes, tell her to shut the fuck up, and make her go on her knees and suck your dick. Only worrt about taking off her clothes once youre fully naked and shes jerking you off or sucking your dick.

Shes young, shes drunk, she likes you.she wont resist. Or not a lot.

You need to act quick, dont let her any time to think or lead. Only pace yourself to get a vibe going. Do not hesitate, or youre fucked. Dont be afraid to physically force her to do anything or to tell her no or shut up. (can make her not like you and fuck up the pull so only do it ifnecessary)

This is sad enough, but look at the comments! Here are some:

this is accurate

retarded, drunk, hot 18 years olds are my favourite

Nice fingerman your advice is as always so fucking helpful, strategic, and intelligent.

No comment.

One user chimes in and recommends martial arts so that you learn how to force yourself upon women:

Yeah that bit about jiu jitsu... I actually recommend taking some form of martial art for improved man handling abilities, bjj + strength training = god tier manhandling skills.

However, I find it impossible to tell if some of the people are actually serious. First I thought that "Saint Etienne" was making fun of "Fingerman", but the last part of his comment made me think otherwise:

yeah, and then when you're done with her, you just like grab all her clothes an then throw em at her, then shout get out you fucking whore. women deserve this because of what they've done to us

RSD instructor Jeffy aka. "jlaix" is "Loving the responses.", instead of banning this dude and deleting the thread in order to save face. Jesus. Even worse, Jeffy seems to have edited his comment, because he gets quoted with "Anyone actually fucking chicks on a regular basis knows this is what's up" by another user.

I couldn't bring myself to reading the whole thread, but Jeffy's later comment says it all: "We're here to fuck girls not assuage hypothetical psychological wounds and/or better society. I'm frankly a little sick of KJ moralizing and hand wringing about this shit. Let's not sugar coat what it is we are doing here too much. We're FUCKING WOMEN."

OK, got you, what's so wrong about using a little force if it means that you get your little pecker wet, right?

That those nine pages of comments to the forum thread have the potential to make you lose faith in humanity. Viz:

5-stars. OP is dead on target. My "game" is still intermediate but I've experienced enough to begin to see this is how it really goes down, even if I can't yet pull it off myself.

Part of the problem for me is fear that if I am this aggressive with a girl, especially a young drunk girl 10 to 15 years my junior, she may cry "rape" the next day. Not because it happened but because she wants to justify her slutty behavior. It sounds like you just need to be extremely calibrated to sense if she's really down and just putting up token resistance or if she really feels "forced" into doing things.

I actually have no moral issues at all with the OP (hell I think the age of consent should be 17, even 16 on case-by-case...), it's just our society's fucked-up laws on sex that scare me.

Not the laws are fucked up but this guy who fantasizes of raping girls half his age and getting away with it.

Not all hope is lost for mankind, though. Some users made statements such as:

This is quite disturbing...especially how many times you wrote and emphasized "physically force her". But hey....

I also liked this one:

i have advice for you, instead of having to wait to find the drunk girls, just roofy them since yer in such a hurry!

But please excuse me now, I've got to vomit.

Sleazy Stories now for Amazon's Kindle — only $0.99!

In my last post I mentioned I was in the process of converting Sleazy Stories to Kindle, and it turned out that this was a rather straightforward process. Here's a random excerpt thanks to Amazon's Kindle Previewer:

Some sacrifices had to be made for formatting. Kindle uses a simplified HTML layout engine, which means that the book doesn't quite reach the level of the paperback version, which was typeset in LaTeX. I'm nonetheless satisfied with the result because the text is very readable and easy to navigate.

Also, since this is my first foray into e-publishing, and because I view Sleazy Stories as a test balloon, I'll make you the very sweet offer of setting the retail price for the ebook at just $0.99. Pricing in other regions is accordingly. It should be 75p in the United Kingdom,  for instance. However, in other regions, the price may be higher, which is due to some policy of Amazon, since I can only set the price for the UK and US market. Get Sleazy Stories now if you haven't bought it already! :)

Sleazy Stories finally on Kindle

Upcoming Releases

Today, I have started on converting Sleazy Stories for Amazon's Kindle. I have done a rough first conversion of the text, but there are some minor formatting issues which have yet to be sorted out. I will keep you updated about the status of this project.

Also, I have finished the translation of Sleazy Stories into German. The book has to go through just one more proof-read. If everything works out, it will be released as a paperback as well as in an ebook version for Kindle.

It's been almost a year now since I have released Debunking the Seduction Community. The effect this ebook had was beyond my wildest expectations, and I still regularly receive emails about it. I have gathered a lot of material for an update, but I also want to keep it as concise as possible. This means that I will probably only release a minor update, but the few pages of new content should be worth it.

Lastly, I have been working on a manuscript for an instructional book on seduction for a while. The promise is nothing more than to lay out the most concise, efficient and versatile approach to seduction. The feedback I have received on drafts has been ecstatic. The book is currently in its final stages, and I'll reveal more about it soon. However, if you ask me when I'll be releasing it, I'll take the same stance as ID Software does with its games: "When it's done."

Thoughts about the Industry, and Mr "Shit happens" Gunwitch

I've been rather busy these days, and it won't change for a while. Yes, I know that I announced a post on the movie "The Great Happiness Space", and it is still on my to-do list, as is everything else I have previously mentioned. But before I'll do that, I have to take care of all the other stuff that showed up in my email inbox, such as a notification about a lengthy comment to my post "PUA "Gunwitch" Shoots Girl in Face, Fans Still Love Him"

An organizer of PUA events felt compelled to voice his opinion. Since there are some rather interesting points that are worth discussing, it wouldn't be appropriate to just bury them in the comment thread.

So, here we go:

Look actually it all is about the "bad things" in the community. This is a fairly new business. There is no control what so ever.

True. There is no control whatsoever. People are scamming left and right, and apparently those businesses seem to think it's fine to not honor any of their promises, like the infamous "money back guarantee". Heck, recently, someone had to make a thread on PUA Hate and expose Andy "Yosha" from Daygame.com, and after several hundred views he -- surprise, surprise -- received an answer to his email requests and received his refund. But try this with PUA Training or Love Systems, who openly declare in the fine print that their programs are only for "entertainment purposes".

People are bashing a lot all the people who make a lot of money in this scene. Only if they provide you with what you want, it's okay.

That's a typical argument from scammers all over the Internet. In the Internet Marketing scene, it's also typical to hear the shills of Frank Kern et al. say that people only hate him because he is oh so successful. It doesn't matter that he offers products of questionable quality and encourages illegal business practices (as Salty Droid repeatedly pointed out). Well, Frank Kern and others ran into legal problems with the FTC for valid reasons, and, no, it wasn't because they had "the wrong disclaimers on their website", as Frank Kern's buddy Neil Strauss writes in his book "Emergency".

And then the other evaluation problem with this business is, it also depends of the motivation of the customer.

Oh, so if company X makes exaggerated promises if can't possibly deliver ("learn to get any women not matter how you look, how much money you have, or where you live" :P), it's suddenly the customer's fault if he doesn't succeed?

It's like Weight Watchers. If you don't loose the weight. Weight Watchers is to blame? You don't carry some of the "weight?"

Haha, that's a great comparison. The weight loss industry is shady, too. Well, we all know that if we want to lose weight, we have to eat healthy food, skip Coke, fast food, and all those crappy ready-meals, and exercise too. But for some those are unpleasant choices, so they prefer getting ripped off by various companies/authors that claim that they are okay. Instead of a healthy life style, they just have to follow some fad diet or some nonsensical procedures, which of course don't work. But because those people are beyond hope, they don't question the products themselves but buy into the next fad.

Similarly, what's the situation with pick up? In a nutshell, it is something like: "don't look like shit and talk to girls", but instead Vin DiCarlo tells you that working out kills your chances with women, Love Systems puts out a "manual" on texting, and Tyler from Real Social Dynamics believes that Brad Pitt is not good looking, and that his level of physical attractiveness has nothing to do with how attractive he is perceived to be. It's nothing but mindbogglingly stupid stuff.

From what I hear Gunwitch did a lot to help people for free. I think he actually earned the least of everyone who is in The Game.

Isn't this a non-sequitur? Or are you honestly saying that because Gunwitch didn't make as much money as Mystery did, he can blow some girl's face off? Heck, money has nothing to do with this.

He could have been successful if had cooperated with guys like Frank Kern or Eben Pagan. And then he would have a lot of money, and maybe would not have shot Amber.

OK, the trip down logical lane continues: You may want to read this brief survey of the issue of so-called counterfactuals. If-then-reasoning is rather pointless, in my not so humble opinion. Well, should you ever get stabbed in a dark alley, I'm sure you wouldn't think, "If only this guy had been a successful pick up guru that had teamed up with Internet Marketers. Then he would have had enough money and wouldn't have needed to rob me."

Luckily Amber is okay.

Is she? As far as I know, she is still missing half her face. Or do you mean by "okay" that she is not dead?

And the community will not have any problem with guys like Gunwitch.

Wut!?

Some guys and girls in this time have difficulty to get together. Spite all the freedom, there always will be problems with relations between guys and girls. So this industry is here to stay.

Sure, the sexes have issues with each others, but do you honestly believe this industry solely exists to help people? Have you ever head anyone say that he turned down a potential client because he wasn't ready (yet)? When I was coaching, I always made sure the guy would really profit from working with me, and if there was no fit, I told them what the issue was. Surely, Mystery and Gambler gladly take $3,000 from overweight guys instead of telling them to get in shape first.

And at some time people will take on control, built schools, have certifications etc. Look at NLP (Richard Bandler was a suspect in murdering a woman too). It's all there.

NLP didn't hold up to scientific scrutiny, and if one day there will be a "Worldwide Association of PUAs" with certifications and all that sh*t, it still won't turn this scene into a legitimate industry.

Give it time, the industry is like 6 years old or something. There always going to be more shit happening.

I'm counting on that.

Just like any other business who is not controlled by an indepedent council. And even then shit happens.

Where in this world do you have "independent councils"? Industries govern themselves, and the financially most powerful ones happily bribe governments to make sure they can continue ruining the planet (BP, Exxon etc) and ruin the lives of people and entire economies (Goldman Sachs, Bank of America etc.)

So shit happens.

Yes, shit happens, and shit will continue to happen, but tell me what else this fact provides than a good reason to get depressed?

Apple is promoting whoring

I recently skimmed the Apple online store. Yes, I'm talking about the company that makes fashionable and overpriced technology products such as iPhones, iPods, iPads, and computers. However, when I saw this I chuckled:

So, Apple encourages you give iPads to women: "This will be yours if you will be mine." Horrible, just horrible!

Somehow it seems that Apple products are bought to a large extent by women, and I don't even want to imagine how many of them browse the Apple store website, see this, and begin to bitch to their husbands or boyfriends that they "so deserve" to get an iPad for Valentine's Day.

Chase Amante reviews Sleazy Stories

Chase Amante from Girls Chase has reviewed my book Sleazy Stories. He has written a lengthy and balanced article. My favorite part is:

Some of the most rewarding parts of the book, at least for me, come when Aaron reaches important realizations: when he reasons he’s been playing his dates too safe, for instance, and starts moving faster and taking more risks. The feeling you get as a reader is akin to that you get in an epic fantasy when the hero realizes he’s graduated from small skirmishes and is ready to face his long-time tormentor in battle now, except instead of a battle we’re talking about seduction, and instead of a sword, Aaron is swinging a big, long… well, you know ;)

You can read the full review of Sleazy Stories on his blog. Furthermore, you can check out some sample chapters on my website, which also has the ordering information.

Gunwitch has to free up time for "other stuff"

Today is just like yesterday. I dicked around on the Internet for a bit, thought I should check out on new developments on the Gunwitch case, and nearly fell off my chair laughing. If you check his website, you'll now see the following announcement:

Well, in light of recent events it is no surprise that he has to free up more of his time for "other stuff". So, now better hurry! For once in this industry you can believe that this is not just a marketing method.

(Thanks, PUAHate!)