Friday, April 13, 2012

Guess this PUA, Part II

Vince Kelvin isn't the only PUA who looks pretty fucked up. The guy in this picture is among the biggest bullshitters in this scene, but he tries to keep a low profile. One wonders why.


Who do you think this is?

(Note: This PUA has posted that picture on the Internet a couple of years ago, along with some others, to demonstrate his "skillz" and since then tries to take them down. But the Streisand Effect is a bitch.)

31 comments:

  1. You guys are good! What gave it away?

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  2. He looks like Howard Stern. His lady looks like a cheap whore.

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  3. cmon aaron follow up on bradp. I took a ws from his company and it was like flushing money down a toilet.

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    1. If you've got a story to share, feel free to contact me here:
      http://www.aaronsleazy.com/cms/contact

      I've collected quite a bit of material on BradP so far, and he'll get some exposure on my blog soon enough. Right now, though, I have a ton on my plate, so I won't make any promises. There's already three lengthy half-finished articles on my computer, and I won't start a fourth one.

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  4. It was your reply and challenge to a comment by BradP on some seduction forum last year that brought me to your humble site, and prompted me to purchase your book, Aaron. I guess I should thank him then for being such a tool. And thanks to you for the book, it's the only seuction related publication other than 'The Game' which I could be bothered to read from cover to cover. Well done old chap :)

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    1. John,

      I am very happy to hear that! I'm pretty sure this was about me confronting him about his marketing lies. Of course, he went completely silent afterwards.

      I'm glad you like my book! If you've got some time to spare, then please consider leaving a (short) review on Amazon. :)

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    2. I'll glad do that for you when I have a moment to spare. If I remember correctly, you were calling him out on his claims, and asking how his 'millionaire IT business man' student was doing with the 'super hot model' he pulled. You later posted something here about the pic of the girl in question (blonde, big tits, in a bikini on the prow of a yacht). Her pic is all over the internet, marketing all sorts of dating an PU related 'concerns'. Christ, it really is quite tragic. I'm glad I had the common sense and intellect not to get sucked in to that world for very long.

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  5. He sterotype Uncle Jesse from full house Lol .



    Brad P is pathetic check this out -----------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkGJuO1-hU0

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  6. Hmm, Brad P and his posse looks the same. Even Glenn P (Glenn Jason) try to go for the Alice Cooper, Kiss look.......

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  7. I'm just curious, when you say he is one of the biggest bullshitters in the scene, is it his marketing techniques or does he give bad advice or both?

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    1. His backstory is made out of lies (I may write on that one), his marketing is shady (I've written on that one already), and his advice seems quite narrow and not applicable to many. His Underground Dating Seminar is just Mystery Method from a different angle. Yet, he presents himself as some kind of messiah, and as "genuine", even though he tries to bleed people dry. Just think of his $50k Pickup Mansion on the high end, or his "millionaire makeover" for $100k, and on the low end, the subscription based forum, where you don't really get feedback from the coaches (I've gotten emails from people involved, and they say that you may get a reply from a guy like GlennP, but then it's something like "awesome, bro!", meaning it's obvious that they haven't even read your questions.)

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    2. What I meant to say with the second part of my post is that he claims to be "genuine" or "legit", while all he really seems to care is making money. I could now post some very ugly statements I have been told from former students that reveal his true colors.

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    3. Here's a teaser: He pretty much was a rock star (so he already was somewhat famous already)...but I'll let Aaron fill you in with his post.

      As for that subscription forum...I am a member on the forum and I disagree with you Aaron. Glenn rarely posts on the forum anymore.

      As for the mansion point, I dont know if you can back this up, Aaron, but I think that if you agree to sign up for something long term like that, "bradp" can just cut back on quality since he has you locked in on a price. So for example, if you get married, you are already locked in with a wife and she can stop working out/following a diet. If you leave there's legal reprecussions. I just havent heard about anything like this from anyone, but it is a suspicion I have with his mansion program. Not sure if I make any sense, so follow up on me..

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    4. So Brad P on guitars?

      http://vimeo.com/17277243

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    5. Great find, Anonymous!

      To the Anonymous who posted before you: I got a few lengthy emails from someone who was very involved in the 30/30 forum, and it's been quite a while since I had a look at them. I don't know whether it was Glenn or anybody else, and right now I can't be bothered to go through my archive. However, the theme was that some coaches would post those one-liners like "Great job!", meaning that the support you are promised isn't as great as they make it sound.

      If you've got more about the PU Mansion to share, please email me:
      http://www.aaronsleazy.com/cms/contact
      I've heard that you get locked in. I also heard that some people got financially ruined, not knowing what they were actually getting into. There is some info I have yet to collect, and some leads to follow up with. In any case, there seem to be quite a few disgruntled ex-clients out there.

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    6. Oh, wow, Dry Kill Logic were much bigger than I thought. They were signed to a major:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_Kill_Logic

      This alone thrashes BradP's concocted backstory, and calling him a "rockstar" isn't so far from the truth. He got kicked out of that band eventually. I think it's something said himself somewhere, or I have read from credible sources.

      He is one of the former members. According to Wikipedia, there were four. Feel free to make a guess, your chance is 1 in 4 after all. Maybe it's the first one. ;)

      Casey Mahoney – Bass
      Dave Kowatch – Bass
      Scott Thompson – Guitar
      Danny Horboychuk – Bass

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    7. I didnt have any more to share about the mansion..it was just speculation. So once you sign up you cant leave, which means "bradp" can cut back on quality (ie less time on the bootcamps). If that was the case, I would find it hard for mansion members to speak up since a lot of guys (I would think especially guys who have trouble with this) wouldnt want to cause trouble.

      Now that I think of it, I wonder why these ex clients arent talking. Do they have to sign contracts that forbide them from talking badly? In general, the mansion sounds way too good to be true which is why Im reluctant to sign up.

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    8. I don't think he locks you in, but he of course wants the money, and the teaching is not as great as people claim it to be. This is something I have heard from a few people who actually lived in PU Mansion and who contacted me.

      BradP also tries to intimidate people when they voice disapproval. Allegedly, he threatens people with suing for libel or slander if they tell him that they are about to post negative reviews. (This is also something people have told me. I also got some contact details for people who had quite heavy arguments with BradP about his coaching and business practices, but I have yet to follow them up.)

      By the way, there are some quite tragic stories floating around about PU Mansion. For instance, one dude did indeed get married to the woman he was seeing before PU Mansion, so he literally flushed one year of his life and $50k down the toilet. I don't know whether he stayed the whole year, though, but he paid the full price.

      The reason why people don't talk much is that some just realized they've been scammed. It's just like with workshops/bootcamps. They just don't want to draw more attention towards themselves. It's rare that someone comes forward and tells the world, "Look, here's how they conned me!" (For a positive example of a guy who speaks up, check out this: http://www.venusianartscon.com/)

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  8. I know its quick offtopic: Where can i find Alek Novy's Blog? Whats the URL?

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    1. Alek has made his blog private again.

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  9. I know his blod is private and you can only read it if you got invited. I love his stutt and his opinion, how can i get invited by him?

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    1. You can't.

      And if I see anyone sharing usernames, I will ip-range-ban both.

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    2. Alek why are you reacting that way? Aaron's blog is not yours, so you have not the right to ip-range-ban ppl.
      And by the way, maybe some ppl can only write and read on blogs with blogspot on their smartphones. And if they use a pc, they use wordpress, cuz its easier. So what? Nobody cares if one person has two or even more accounts...

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    3. I meant ban from my own blog... lol

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  10. 50k is fucking ridiculous. But there are a lot of rich men willing to pay to learn how to pick girls up. I have never heard a bad review of Brad P. Maybe I heard one of his coaches weren't up to snuff but Brad always got great reviews. Perhaps the other reason people aren't saying anything is because he does a great job of teaching men what they paid for--how to approach women. Which of course they don't have to pay for. They could all just start a band or throw an art show, or read an ebook and go practice.

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    1. Oh, another dating coach? What makes you special and do you have any formal training within psychology or related fields to call your self a coach?

      Quote:"I’ve read hundreds of books and articles, watched hundreds of hours of DVD products, and put in thousands of hours of in-field practice to master the skill-set."

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  11. Psychology degree. That's a funny one.

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    1. Yes, being qualified on shit you proclaim yourself an expert on... so funny.

      We should just make shit up based on anecdote. After all unqualified anecdote has brought us things such as homeopathy, scientology, pickup artists, fad diets, Tony Robbins, and much much more...

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    2. Yeah... I have known you for years. You DO NOT have a Psychology degree.

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